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Easter Clark

Joined: 18 Nov 2007 Location: Hiding from Yie Eun-woong
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:08 pm Post subject: Babo kids hospitalized a girl for being "too smart" |
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Sad, sad, sad. 7 girls from a grade 1 HS class attacked a girl who had lived abroad for 3 years and speaks perfect English. When I asked their homeroom teacher why they did it, he told me they said she was too smart and was making them look bad in their English classes.
This at a vocational HS where the level of spoken English is somewhere between "Hi" and "I like fork." |
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Xuanzang

Joined: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Sadang
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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So why isnt she at a normal high school (the assaulted)? |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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You should talk to the girl that went to the hospital and let her know that she shouldn't be intimidated. Especially in Korea where STATUS counts for a lot. That girl will get revenge in the fact that one day she'll have a great job, have all the luxury goods she wants, while the other girls are working at waitresses at noraebangs, and sleeping with drink ajosshi's for extra money. |
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jvalmer

Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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Xuanzang wrote: |
So why isnt she at a normal high school (the assaulted)? |
She maybe got beat up because she could have been a little arrogant. I have a few smart students that do act arrogant and the other students just hate it and isolate her. It always the girls that are really really bad at treating other students they don't like.
Or maybe her math and science skill aren't up to snuff. I guess the parents originally thought sending her overseas would be a magic ticket to guaranteed success. |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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Xuanzang wrote: |
So why isnt she at a normal high school (the assaulted)? |
I was wondering the same thing, but there's a boy at a vocational HS in my district who lived in Australia for a year and has way better conversational English than the teachers at his school.
It's so terrible to hear about that kind of thing happening in Korea. If my students did that to a classmate just for having fluent English I think I'd totally lose it on them the next time I taught their class. |
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Easter Clark

Joined: 18 Nov 2007 Location: Hiding from Yie Eun-woong
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:58 am Post subject: |
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Xuanzang wrote: |
So why isnt she at a normal high school (the assaulted)? |
Although her English is native-like, her math sucks (she went to an inner-city school in NY) and her Korean isn't that great.
Her goal is to be a translator, and I have no doubt she can succeed at it.
YBS--I caught myself being too strict in that class today. I don't know who the perpetrators are, but I have a pretty good idea. Thing is, they're usually good students. |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:33 am Post subject: |
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Easter Clark wrote: |
Xuanzang wrote: |
So why isnt she at a normal high school (the assaulted)? |
Although her English is native-like, her math sucks (she went to an inner-city school in NY) and her Korean isn't that great.
Her goal is to be a translator, and I have no doubt she can succeed at it.
YBS--I caught myself being too strict in that class today. I don't know who the perpetrators are, but I have a pretty good idea. Thing is, they're usually good students. |
If there were no sore hands or knees you were probably still a hell of lot nicer than I would have been. Actually don't think I'd want to walk into that class the week after it happened. |
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sojourner1

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:24 am Post subject: |
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Dam, they got some serious competition going on in Korea. Kid says, "I want gun." Teacher says, "why?" Kid says, "so I can win....."
Kid acts totally retarded and specially sits at the front next to the teachers desk and has no friends, but yet shows brilliance when he writes.
I see disaster brewing in Korean kids...
The rich have a competitive advantage while the smart poor get pissed off and it results in school violence and suicide. Korean schools would be scary if guns were readily available like in America and America is one scary place to teach. That's too bad it's gotta be that way, but times are tough. |
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Xuanzang

Joined: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Sadang
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:53 am Post subject: |
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Revenge is a dish best served cold. I hope that girl doesnt go off the rails and succeeds at becoming a translator . |
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elavndrc
Joined: 15 Oct 2008 Location: Korea
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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I feel bad for her. I have a few students like that in my class, they're not isolated but they do try to hide the fact that they speak well. The English teachers parade them around and force them to speak in class because they can do it well but they don't want to do it because of the other students. Their level of English is much higher but the work is also way too easy for their age group. |
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espoir

Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Location: Incheon, South Korea
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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Seriously if my students ever did that to one of the special (can actually speak a full sentence student) in my class we would be doing nothing but military drills, in english of course, and ensure they got one hell of a beating!!
I have one student that actually spent 12 years in California and speaks perfect english obviously. I also work in a technical high school so the class average in English is not far beyond "hello" and "I'm fine thank you" But this student spends the entire class helping out the other students around him and ensuring that they do all the work. He's honestly a dream come true in a student and definately my favourite by far. Funny enough some of the other english teachers just think hes too cocky and a distraction for the students, but I think thats just because he speaks better english and with a perfect accent and they ever will! |
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Pa Jan Jo A Hamnida
Joined: 27 Oct 2006 Location: Not Korea
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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Yep. The K teachers don't care much for kids who were educated in an English speaking country. I remember one teacher who had an unreasonable dislike of a 9 year old who spoke excellent English. Every minor fault was a major criticism. Disappointing. |
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maddog
Joined: 08 Dec 2005 Location: Daegu
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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That's pretty sad. One of my students, who is in 2nd grade middle school, lived in Canada for five years and speaks almost fluent English. To my knowledge, she's never been the target of intimidation. Then again, she's in quite a high-level class, so they're all pretty good speakers.
I would lose the plot completely if I found out something like that had happened to one of my students. |
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Easter Clark

Joined: 18 Nov 2007 Location: Hiding from Yie Eun-woong
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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Pa Jan Jo A Hamnida wrote: |
Yep. The K teachers don't care much for kids who were educated in an English speaking country. I remember one teacher who had an unreasonable dislike of a 9 year old who spoke excellent English. Every minor fault was a major criticism. Disappointing. |
It must be quite an eye-opener for this girl (whose English is far, far superior to even the best K-English teachers at my school) when I tell my co-teacher (whose English is abysmal) what I want her to translate, then she completely misunderstands my instructions and I have to tell her again or stop the class and pull the coteacher aside.
I tried to encourage her to get involved in some speech contests, but none of the English teachers here seem to want to help her--they just say "Our school doesn't go to those contests." I sincerely hope this incident will cause her family (well, her father--her mom was killed in the US, so she had to move back to Korea) to move her to a better school--one where she has a chance to excel. |
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Joe Boxer

Joined: 25 Dec 2007 Location: Bundang, South Korea
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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Xuanzang wrote: |
Revenge is a dish best served cold. I hope that girl doesnt go off the rails and succeeds at becoming a translator . |
What would be "cold" about that? |
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