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withnail



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:29 am    Post subject: Newbies: An example of a lesson for a a big group Reply with quote

As you no doubt know already, we really ought to divide a group of say, 40 students into groups for example 8 groups of 5.

As much as possible we avoid trying to teach the whole lot from the front for reasons of classroom control.

Ask each group to think of a team name for themselves! Gradually it'll be easier to learn their names within teams. Funny names will help a nice atmosphere.


Begin with a warmer game: See my post on warmers.


Let's start with 1 type of lesson: a vocabulary-based lesson. Say on Food, just as an example.



1.Flash up a picture of a tasty meal for example on the board using powerpoint or an overhead. Ask them questions about it. It's good to start with an arresting image at the beginning of a lesson. For kids without much English, picture prompts get a much better response than text prompts.

2. A couple of basic intro questions to ask around the room. Pick out individuals to answer if no one offers anything.

3. Give out a pre-prepared sheet you made yourself or found with a list of food vocabulary on it. Say each word out loud and get them to repeat as a whole class, in teams and even the odd individual (especially the individuals who don't seem to be paying attention - good way to snap them out of that).

4. On the other side of the same sheet should be some exercises you found or made to practice those very words you just practiced pronunciation for. These exercises can be

a crossword
a word scramble
a sentence gapfill
a matching exercise
a word search
etc etc

The kids have learned to say the words so here they are practicing writing them, seeing them, finding them etc etc. Go round helping, assisting

Make this stage a team v team competition. Have a winner, second place etc...

Finish off with a team discussion or even whole class discussion - another sheet you pre-prepared has some simple questions you've made, maybe 6 questions which have some of the words you taught in the question and must be used in the answer. As you go round helping, make sure they are not skipping the word, especially the answerer.

If a group happily chats away, assist the groups which seem mute.

Finish off with a little game.

This is just 1 example of a vocab-based lesson following the ppp approach or presentation, practice, production methodology. The idea is that you present, then practice in a controlled way, then in an uncontrolled way.

It can be followed for any vocab topic. If you have any questions, just fire them to me. For the vets out there, bear with me as you all know this of course and there can be problems with this kind of lesson which are better dealt with on a Q&A basis. Try not to flame me! Just trying to help out any newbies for a few start-up ideas. Some posters/pms have asked for this..
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icnelly



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Newbies: An example of a lesson for a a big group Reply with quote

withnail wrote:
As you no doubt know already, we really ought to divide a group of say, 40 students into groups for example 8 groups of 5.

As much as possible we avoid trying to teach the whole lot from the front for reasons of classroom control.

Ask each group to think of a team name for themselves! Gradually it'll be easier to learn their names within teams. Funny names will help a nice atmosphere.


Begin with a warmer game: See my post on warmers.


Please learn to link so as to keep things useful: new posts linked with relevant information, or even references.

HTML linking

A great HTML resource page

Enjoy!
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BrianInSuwon



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Location: Korea

PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you actually tried this in the classroom? What grade levels? How much success did you have with the group discussions?

Can you provide a list of your intro questions for this topic (food) and a list of your simple questions that encourage group discussions?
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ddeubel



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

withnail,

Lots of good ideas and suggestions (but the proof is in the delivery though). If you really want to share your ideas, I suggest you get a blog? Or a site where you can keep these and put it in a standard format? This would be most beneficial to teachers. I know of several easy ways if you want to go there...

However, I will say a few words about this...

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4. On the other side of the same sheet should be some exercises you found or made to practice those very words you just practiced pronunciation for. These exercises can be

a crossword
a word scramble
a sentence gapfill
a matching exercise
a word search
etc etc


I really don't like the idea of promoting "worksheets". IMO they are anthema to good teaching practices and a cruch. They ruin a lot of young teacher's development.

A worksheet and playing around with words in the form of exercises - IS NOT LEARNING LANGUAGE but completing a task. Of course there is always incidental learning, whatever you do . The question is the effective use of class time. I see even experienced teachers, printing out reems of handouts...ugh...a true sign of someone who hasn't thought through teaching as something truly human and communicative. I can see Korean teachers of lower fluency using it or using it as a supplement/homework but not as a communicative task in the classroom.

My two cents.
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Have you actually tried this in the classroom? What grade levels? How much success did you have with the group discussions?

Can you provide a list of your intro questions for this topic (food) and a list of your simple questions that encourage group discussions?


See what I mean? The wolves are howling for substance and tangible stuff....

DD
http://eflclassroom.ning.com
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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I disagree duebels. I've had some of my best classes with worksheets. However it is important to personalize them. The best worksheets take the form of a class survey. If you can get the students walking around asking questions thats great. I've even done that in 40 student classes+.
If you can take advatage of team teaching thats not impossible.

I also like the information gaps on bogglesworld. Worksheets can be really bad if it's just parroting.
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ddeubel



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I disagree duebels. I've had some of my best classes with worksheets. However it is important to personalize them. The best worksheets take the form of a class survey. If you can get the students walking around asking questions thats great. I've even done that in 40 student classes+.


I know it is a broad category but I don't consider a piece of paper you use to interview, survey or aid in communication, a worksheet. Nor anything you use when standing or in a group form. My bad not explaining that.

You are right about personalizing - so crucial and when you relate A to your B, your brain is sparking in the right places and learning (however elusive that term is), is happening. Learning is so glued to the ego and emotions. If anyone wants to learn more about "connectivism" as this new theory of learn is terms (as opposed to Behavioralism, Constructivism...two of the more dominant), should visit a great Canadian's George Siemen's site http://www.connectivism.ca/

DD
http://eflclassroom.ning.com
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ddeubel wrote:
withnail,

Lots of good ideas and suggestions (but the proof is in the delivery though). If you really want to share your ideas, I suggest you get a blog? Or a site where you can keep these and put it in a standard format? This would be most beneficial to teachers. I know of several easy ways if you want to go there...

However, I will say a few words about this...

Quote:
4. On the other side of the same sheet should be some exercises you found or made to practice those very words you just practiced pronunciation for. These exercises can be

a crossword
a word scramble
a sentence gapfill
a matching exercise
a word search
etc etc


I really don't like the idea of promoting "worksheets". IMO they are anthema to good teaching practices and a cruch. They ruin a lot of young teacher's development.

A worksheet and playing around with words in the form of exercises - IS NOT LEARNING LANGUAGE but completing a task. Of course there is always incidental learning, whatever you do . The question is the effective use of class time. I see even experienced teachers, printing out reems of handouts...ugh...a true sign of someone who hasn't thought through teaching as something truly human and communicative. I can see Korean teachers of lower fluency using it or using it as a supplement/homework but not as a communicative task in the classroom.

My two cents.
Quote:

Have you actually tried this in the classroom? What grade levels? How much success did you have with the group discussions?

Can you provide a list of your intro questions for this topic (food) and a list of your simple questions that encourage group discussions?


See what I mean? The wolves are howling for substance and tangible stuff....

DD
http://eflclassroom.ning.com


Korean public school students really need scaffolding to get started, and get almost no opportunity actually to practice English apart from the odd outstanding KET's class or having a NET perhaps once a week. While I'll be the first to admit it's less than ideal, working off paper also makes them feel much more comfortable and reduces the filter that comes with the threat of the unknown. 45-50 minutes is also a LONG time to try to function in a second language and a short puzzle or video to help break things up really helps keeps their concentration for those times when they have to try really hard to function in L2. I also find that jumping from paper-based questions to open ones helps to remove the bewilderment that usually comes with asking such simple questions as 'how's it going' or 'what do you think of...'.

This summer I had the opportunity to teach an adults class open to members of the community. It was all adults except for two grade six elementary students who[se parents] really wanted [them] to be in the class. While I was hesitant about having them there at first it taught me so much about the differences between how adults and children learn a language. The most salient difference was that when I asked questions, especially ones that drew on individuals to answer, the adults almost always looked at their books when they weren't sure and the children almost always stared off into thin air when they couldn't think of or remember what to say. It does seem as though the older learners get, the more comfortable they are working with paper, which is something to consider when deciding what materials would help boost their confidence the best. Furthermore, if you can get them into the habit of keeping portfolios of their handouts, they have a great ready, self-produced reference resource.
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