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wings



Joined: 09 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:42 pm    Post subject: space heaters vs. ondol Reply with quote

Last winter my gas bill went from around 9,000 won a month to around 190,000. This was with the ondol on a fairly low setting, which never actually made me warm, just less cold. I want to get a space heater this year, but I'm wondering just how high my electric bill will go, and also where I should get one and what kind I should buy.

Should I go to high mart or a similar store, or is the quality the same as buying one in a little shop?

There are fan shaped ones and square ones, what is the difference?

How much does it cost to run?

Any other advice?

Cheers!
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Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam

PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm testing this out right now. I thought ondol sounded like it would be good (heated floors!) until I saw my bill in March.

It's the same space heater no matter where you buy it.

There are two kinds of space heaters, radiant and convection. Google will tell you all about them.
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DavePuff



Joined: 01 Jan 2005
Location: Daegu, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:19 pm    Post subject: Re: space heaters vs. ondol Reply with quote

wings wrote:
Last winter my gas bill went from around 9,000 won a month to around 190,000.


Do you leave it on all day? I'm not sure how gas heating could possibily be more expensive than electric heating.

190,000 won a month seems steep. Perhaps the boiler is faulty or in need of a service?
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Dodgy Al



Joined: 15 May 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slightly off-topic, but not much:

Does anyone have a timer on their heating panel? I don't want the heating to run all night, but would love for the ondol to kick in around 6am so I don't have to roll out of bed and be instantly freezing my nads off. Any ideas?
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afsjesse



Joined: 23 Sep 2007
Location: Kickin' it in 'Kato town.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I survived last winter with a 15k won space heater from Top Mart. My electric bill went up about 20k per month, that's about 5-7 hours a day that it was on. Gas bill was very low. If it's on all day/night, I imagine it would go up perhaps 50-80k.... anyway you look at it, it's cheaper! and better INOP
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Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam

PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gas heating is more expensive when you leave it on all day (you have to, it takes forever to warm up) and have to heat the entire apartment and not just the room you are in.

Dodgy Al wrote:
Slightly off-topic, but not much:

Does anyone have a timer on their heating panel? I don't want the heating to run all night, but would love for the ondol to kick in around 6am so I don't have to roll out of bed and be instantly freezing my nads off. Any ideas?


Some do, I do not. Not a clue. I keep a space heater next to my bed to warm the room up. No timer though.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A large, old, draughty 'Villa' apartment with badly fitted windows (that would be all of them!) is going to need a lot of gas to keep it warm. You might be better looking at other options like a space heater in just one room or something.......

.....But a modern apartment or 'officetel' with good windows should be much cheaper to heat with ondol than a space heater.
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nolegirl



Joined: 17 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do they sell heated blankets in Korea and if so how much?
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blade



Joined: 30 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dodgy Al wrote:
Slightly off-topic, but not much:

Does anyone have a timer on their heating panel? I don't want the heating to run all night, but would love for the ondol to kick in around 6am so I don't have to roll out of bed and be instantly freezing my nads off. Any ideas?

You need to leave your ondol on all the time and control the temperature with your thermostat. If you turn it off completely then you will only end up being cold for a couple of hours until your ondol heats up again.


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blade



Joined: 30 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nolegirl wrote:
Do they sell heated blankets in Korea and if so how much?

Yes; but I've no idea how much one costs.

Homeplus should have them though.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two winters ago I experimented and tried an electric ceramic heater instead of my oil-fired ondol. The results were six-of-one, half-a-dozen-of-the-other - what I saved on oil, I spent on electricty.

However, since then, the price of oil has risen more than that of electricty...
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sojourner1



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug

PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had an ondol in a shoebox apartment last Winter cost in excess of 100,000 a month in November and December that didn't keep me warm at all though the land lady was biling me and controlling my ondol so it's not a fair judging of how effiencient your own ondol on your own meter really might be. She was the same one who turned off my hot water when I'd get home each night and then tried to demand more money the last day I was in there. I got mad and yelled at the greedy self centered bich for causing such troubles. I had an electric space heater which I used to sleep with and it costed another 75,000 to 125,000 to use it sparingly.

The gas cooking range seems to be the most efficient heater as gas is super cheap and very very hot with blue fire. Gas ranges tend to be many more times efficient than electric heating. Of course you need a minimal amount of some sort of heat while at work and on vacation so the damned pipes don't freeze and break.
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kimbabworld



Joined: 20 Jun 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of my co-workers used 2 of them in his apartment thinking he would save money but when he got his bill he had used so much energy that he was charged an extra fee. I guess there is a limit on how much energy you use and if you go over it, you get fined in a sense.
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Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kimbabworld wrote:
One of my co-workers used 2 of them in his apartment thinking he would save money but when he got his bill he had used so much energy that he was charged an extra fee. I guess there is a limit on how much energy you use and if you go over it, you get fined in a sense.


Was it still cheaper than ondol?
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kimbabworld



Joined: 20 Jun 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I used my ondol freely and my bill was 248,000 won and his was a bit higher.
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