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rhinosaur
Joined: 25 Oct 2008
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 Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:09 am Post subject: The North American Union: Is this manifest destiny? |
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I realize this thread will start a sh*tstorm with the conspiracy nuts, but it has to be discussed:
(From: Canadians Against the North American Union Facebook Group)
http://www.facebook.com/groups.php?ref=sb#/group.php?gid=2232466583
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| The objective of this group is to inform Canadians (and Americans and Mexicans) of the North American Union (NAU), which will integrate Canada, the United States, and Mexico into one continental, "security" bloc. Governed under one set of economic and military laws and a replaced common currency by the target date 2010. The Union will be enforced by a police state in order to stifle dissenting citizens. The US has already passed Patriot Acts 1 & 2, laws that not even Hitler and Stalin had the nerve to put to paper. Our "anti-terrorist" legislation is a mirror image of that. |
There are about 100 posts, links and videos on this site to insight rage in almost anyone...left OR right wing...check it out
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This group is for anyone (not just Canadians) who are against the process of deeper integration in North America as it is progressing today - behind closed doors and without the input of the public. We need Americans and Mexicans to stand up to this threat as well! So join the fight for freedom!
REJECT THE NORTH AMERICA UNION (N.A.U.)
1. The agenda of the corporate/financial/military elite of North America is to unify the territories currently occupied by Canada, USA, and Mexico into one new continental block with a new border around the perimeter of North America under the aegis and control of a new supranational, unelected governing body.
2. This agenda is currently being implemented with the cooperation and duplicity of the federal governments and civil and military bureaucracy of the three nations;
3. The media and the corporate political parties of Canada currently sitting in Parliament are virtually silent or deny that the restructuring of Canada and North America as a whole is occurring;
4. The majority of Canadians are uninformed of this phenomenon, and have been given little or no opportunity to become informed about these pressing issues;
5.The position of Member of Parliament has already become almost irrelevant except to rubber-stamp the will of the Corporate/financial elite.
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Whats your take on the NAU?? Are we living in a dream world? Can we do anything? |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map
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| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:36 am Post subject: |
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That's 'incite' rage, I believe.
Anyway, this was a hot topic of conversation here some time back. I think the general consensus, apart from the CTs, was that while there are steps being taken to promote increased trade, the prospect of Mexico, the U.S. and Canada being melded into one state was highly unlikely. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:53 am Post subject: |
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| caniff wrote: |
That's 'incite' rage, I believe.
Anyway, this was a hot topic of conversation here some time back. I think the general consensus, apart from the CTs, was that while there are steps being taken to promote increased trade, the prospect of Mexico, the U.S. and Canada being melded into one state was highly unlikely. |
Yeah. When good, capital, and people can move freely between borders we create more wealth. As a software professional, my job would be easier and more efficient if I could get on a plane at Pearson and not have to worry about getting through US customs. |
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rhinosaur
Joined: 25 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:46 am Post subject: |
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| That's 'incite' rage, I believe. |
Thanks teach.... My spelling has taken a hit ever since I started to "Level Down" my English...my family back home are starting to think I'm a little "slow".
Anyway, I don't know if undoing almost 2 centuries of sovereignty for 'economic' purposes is an appropriate step forward. Canada stands to lose the most as our resources will be decimated in a borderless market.
I don't think everything in life needs to run on a business model..... It hasn't worked out that hot so far. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:48 am Post subject: |
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| I don't object to a union of states of like mind, but I object to the derth of imagination that restricts it to states that are geographically contiguous. I see no reason why states that share ideals and visions of the future getting together and forming new configurations shouldn't do so. I object to the US linking itself to Canada and/or Mexico if they don't share our ideals. The US is an amazingly innovative economic system (OK, the current economic adventure with subprime loans was a major mistake) and I think we should look around the world for partners who share similar visions. |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 5:04 am Post subject: |
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North American Union....this is suppose to be the response to the 'European Union'? Replacing all of our currencies by 2010? This is designed to stop dissent?
There are too many things wrong with this. It'll never happen.
Where do people get this stuff? I see it circulated around paranoid groups...but never able to identify the exact source. Usually it comes from freaked out Americans...intersting that Canada has their own segment of freaked out individuals probably reading the same sources. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 5:45 am Post subject: |
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| I wish it were true. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:05 am Post subject: |
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| Tiger Beer wrote: |
North American Union....this is suppose to be the response to the 'European Union'? Replacing all of our currencies by 2010? This is designed to stop dissent?
There are too many things wrong with this. It'll never happen.
Where do people get this stuff? I see it circulated around paranoid groups...but never able to identify the exact source. Usually it comes from freaked out Americans...intersting that Canada has their own segment of freaked out individuals probably reading the same sources. |
It's nice to think large but small changes can help with the free flow of goods, capital, and humans. Governments, do doubt, will try to sneak in power grabs whenever they can. Being vigilent in that regard is good. But going off the deep end about NWO and Chinese peace keepers policing Americans or whatever is insane and probably plays INTO the hands of governments who would use this as an opportunity to grab power by a poisoning of the well, creating a "any dissent is just conspiracy fringe talk" sense. A bit like post-9/11 anyone offering even a modicum of rational dissent to government power grabs was branded as unAmerican. |
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Beeyee
Joined: 29 May 2007
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:27 am Post subject: |
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The wiki link is troubling how?
Regarding the second link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_Watch#Activities
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| Condemning as "murder" the outcome of the Terri Schiavo case. Schiavo's parents wished that she be kept on life support, and were joined in their pursuits by prominent Republicans. |
Wow, nice bunch there. |
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Paji eh Wong
Joined: 03 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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I'm Canadian.
If we are on the hook for all of that American debt, no way. |
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Beeyee
Joined: 29 May 2007
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| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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The wiki link is troubling how?
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Remember that the European Union started in exactly the same way. People said "What's the problem? It's only an economic partnership". I highly doubt that it will come by 2010 but come it will. |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Ofcourse it will come. We used to define ourselves by our villages 4000 years ago. It's only a matter of time until borders start to disappear. Colonizing space would help speed that along. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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The wiki link is troubling how?
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Remember that the European Union started in exactly the same way. People said "What's the problem? It's only an economic partnership". I highly doubt that it will come by 2010 but come it will. |
So how are the people of Europe worse off under the EU? |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Beeyee wrote: |
| mindmetoo wrote: |
The wiki link is troubling how?
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Remember that the European Union started in exactly the same way. People said "What's the problem? It's only an economic partnership". I highly doubt that it will come by 2010 but come it will. |
You think the EU is doing badly?
The entire EU has benefited from it, even those who had to pay more then they received thru cheaper labor .... |
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