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Holidays: 2 Weeks or 1 week?

 
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Korea Newfie



Joined: 27 Mar 2003
Location: Newfoundland and Labrador

PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 6:23 pm    Post subject: Holidays: 2 Weeks or 1 week? Reply with quote

Hi all,

I have a buddy here in Incheon who gets 5 days off a year, but I remember hearing that by law the minimum is 10 days. Does anybody have some insight here?
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This was discussed at length recently here: http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=13870&highlight=vacation+law

The conclusion seemed to be that if you work a five day week instead of the 5.5 day week mandated by Korean law, your employer doesn't owe you any additional vacation time according to Korean labor law.

However, two weeks of vacation and a 5 day work week are pretty standard in the current market. Even a newbie shouldn't sign for less IMHO.
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dominic



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 4:29 am    Post subject: ? Reply with quote

Yeah right, like Koreans follow the labor laws that's a laugh
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Korea Newfie



Joined: 27 Mar 2003
Location: Newfoundland and Labrador

PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Son Deureo! wrote:
Even a newbie shouldn't sign for less IMHO.


Ah, you think you're pretty cool now that you're getting out of Incheon eh? You'll be back...they always come back... Wink

Anyway, our boy from Idaho didn't know any better...one really wouldn't unless they spent a lot of time researching, and tweaking their BS detector.
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, it's our boy from Idaho, huh? Dammit all to hell, now I feel bad!

Yeah, if he signed a contract for only one week I don't think he has any recourse through the government.

But if he's valuable enough to his employer, he may be able to put on some pressure and renegotiate his contract. Hell, they do it to us all the time, why can't we?
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Korea Newfie



Joined: 27 Mar 2003
Location: Newfoundland and Labrador

PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha, holidays are funny things.

Coincidentally, I discussed taking mine with my boss today too, and he was saying that he didn't know how I was going to be able to take them, because they have no way of covering my classes. When I pointed out that it was in my contract, and perhaps he shouldn't be making promises that he has no way of fulfilling, he went back to telling me how much of a problem my holidays present to the school. Yes, it is a problem. What I fail to see, however, is how exactly it's mine...
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IconsFanatic



Joined: 19 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 6:40 am    Post subject: Re: ? Reply with quote

dominic wrote:
Yeah right, like Koreans follow the labor laws that's a laugh


Exactly. Laughing

Pretty much all hagwon bosses are w*nkers trying to screw foreigners out of hols.

You are legally entitled to 10 days. Period. It doesn't matter if you signed a contract for less; national law is stronger than some stupid little contract.

I signed for 8 days, learned of the 10 days rule, and informed my boss. End of story. He didn't like it, but I don't really care.

Hardly any of the Korean teachers at my school take any holidays. One got married and took a week for her honeymoon; that's it. "Have no walkbone, get walked upon" seems to be the motto for Korean employees.

Don't take any bullsh*t from your boss. In Europe they get 10 weeks off. All we ask for here in Korea is 2 weeks, and they won't even give us that without trying to make us feel guilty. Geez.
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