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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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At my current place we have a weird policy. The foreign teachers teach the student books, and the Korean teachers teach the workbooks. I always thought it would be better to teach both together in the same lesson period, using the workbook to reinforce what was taught in the student book. And yes, 1 page a day has been the standards at all the hakwons I have taught, regardless whether the students have learned the material or not.
Given that, 3-4 months seems about right. |
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weatherman

Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Location: Korea
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Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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AT my university's hogwon we teach kids in the late afternoon. We use the let's go books, but they (the bosses) force us to finish the book in 7 weeks. This makes it kind of a joke, and our kids class are an incredible 70 minutes long and with no Korean teacher support. I go over the book (with tape) and workbook, and play some games that sometimes have more or less relevance to what we studied. In the end, if some child didn't get the lesson, we move on. The boss takes completion of the book as top priority. |
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Eazy_E

Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Location: British Columbia, Canada
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Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Damn... I don't even have the workbooks to go with my lessons... what a crock. |
My school has started doing this too. At least ask your school for ONE workbook so that you can photocopy it before the lesson. It's an extra pain in the ass for you, but the students really need their writing practice at the end of the lesson so that they can reflect on it and reinforce what they learned.
Also, my school's standard for Let's Go is two pages per day. At three lessons per week, that makes it... just about four months I guess. Even two pages a day can be a bit too much, if it's something important like different tenses you need to slow it down and play some games so that the kids get immersed in it and really know it inside and out. |
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ryleeys

Joined: 22 Dec 2003 Location: Columbia, MD
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Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm only allowed to photocopy with permission from my director... paper costs money and all... I get around that by taking paper when she isn't looking and having my students write the important things 10 times... Pisses them off and undoubtedly I'm gonna get yelled at sooner or later by a parent or my director, but whatever, I'm just trying to do my job. I'm not a good teacher to begin with, don't take more resources away from me. |
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justagirl

Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Location: Cheonan/Portland
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 12:12 am Post subject: |
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ryleeys, why don't you just buy a reem of paper? It's about 3,000 won or less and then your boss doesn't have to pay for it. How about approaching the boss and telling her that you've been working on some lesson plans, have gone out and bought some paper and you'd like to make some copies with the paper you bought for your students.
In response to the original post, I teach the Let's Go books, too. We just changed from 3 months to 4 months, which is less than 1 page a day...actually 2 days for each page, since we have class 4 days a week.
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ryleeys

Joined: 22 Dec 2003 Location: Columbia, MD
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 12:14 am Post subject: |
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| Eh... I'm thinking about it... also gotta consider the costs of ink and stuff I guess. I use the extra time to do my own lessons... I've got my kids writing letters to students at the elementary school I went to back in the States... |
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crazylemongirl

Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Location: almost there...
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 4:39 am Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| At my current place we have a weird policy. The foreign teachers teach the student books, and the Korean teachers teach the workbooks. |
I have a few classes with that policy. This wouldn't be such a problem if the korean teachers understood the material.
But when they come up to me and ask me what a dumpling is I get very worried.
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Son Deureo!
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 8:05 am Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| At my current place we have a weird policy. The foreign teachers teach the student books, and the Korean teachers teach the workbooks. |
My current hogwon has the same policy. I also think it would be better to mix it up, but I've never been able to make that fly. My boss insists on one book in 3 months, and she swears that the parents are demanding she do it in 2. It's still too fast IMHO, but I've been powerless to slow it down any further despite my best efforts.
I agree that you should be using all of the supplements (the grammar and listening books), and with all of that you probably should be going at a rate of one level per 6 months.
On the whole, I like Let's Go. It does a good job of focusing on grammar and building sentences, plus the songs do a pretty good job of reinforcing important vocabulary and grammar. But cover anything too fast and it's all just a big waste of time. |
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ryleeys

Joined: 22 Dec 2003 Location: Columbia, MD
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 8:15 am Post subject: |
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What drives me batty is that I have to teach two other books combined with Let's Go... so my students are getting lessons on completely different vocabulary, grammar, and phonics all in one week and are expected to learn it all.
Oh well, it's not my fault if the system is screwy...
(well, to Koreans it is my fault, but what the heck do they know... they're the ones that made the friggin' system) |
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sprite
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: canuckville
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 6:48 pm Post subject: two months |
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we did the let's go books in two months, but it was expected that most kids would need to go through it 3 times. younger kids love singing songs; lots of the nursery rhymes or skipping songs you know can be good too.
"my father is a garbage man" was a great chant for teaching jobs.
there is a huge gap between what demanding parents want and what their kids are capable of producing. imagine how the little tykes feel!
it helps to makes the kids the focus of the lesson; try not to let them see how panicked you are.
the other possibility is simply to coast, do the bare minimum. lots of folks do. but then you waste all your time and never learn anything.
best of luck. |
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Son Deureo!
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 7:12 pm Post subject: Re: two months |
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| sprite wrote: |
there is a huge gap between what demanding parents want and what their kids are capable of producing. imagine how the little tykes feel!
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You hit the nail on the head. |
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