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Al Franken's Senate Bid...
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Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong

PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BB,

Conservative may yet still have to choke on those two words they'd hate to have to say: Senator Franken.

The last time I checked the margin was 210 for Coleman and closing.

A total of 3 US Senate races are outstanding:

Minnesota
Alaska
Georgia
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Bird wrote:
Gopher wrote:
Negative. No confusion. You are trying too hard to distance A. Franken from his books -- which do not represent "entertainment" but rather "junk," just like A. Coulter and the others who contribute to it from the other side.

I do not want these people in public office. Leave them in the mostly shallow and sensationalist print media and television, where I may simply ignore them, as I mostly do. Bar them from my govt, however. They do not belong there.


You sound like one of those 'Western Elitists,' mate. Who decided that entertainers are not supposed to have a political side?


Who is the elitist here? This is the same demographic, Hollywood entertainers and East-Coast liberal elites, who produced that condescending Youtube.com clip that Canuckistan so proudly posted on the Off-Topic forum not so long ago.

As far as your second question: me. I decided. And, in this case, so did a sufficient number of Minn.'s voters, this time -- and I take it that you support R. Reagan, J. Ventura, and the gubernator, et al., in politics? Ambassador S. Stone on Chinese earthquakes but not S. Palin because she seems "inexperienced" to you?

*Shakes head*
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Big_Bird



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
Big_Bird wrote:
Gopher wrote:
Negative. No confusion. You are trying too hard to distance A. Franken from his books -- which do not represent "entertainment" but rather "junk," just like A. Coulter and the others who contribute to it from the other side.

I do not want these people in public office. Leave them in the mostly shallow and sensationalist print media and television, where I may simply ignore them, as I mostly do. Bar them from my govt, however. They do not belong there.


You sound like one of those 'Western Elitists,' mate. Who decided that entertainers are not supposed to have a political side?


Who is the elitist here? This is the same demographic, Hollywood entertainers and East-Coast liberal elites, who produced that condescending Youtube.com clip that Canuckistan so proudly posted on the Off-Topic forum not so long ago.

As far as your second question: me. I decided. And, in this case, so did a sufficient number of Minn.'s voters, this time -- and I take it that you support R. Reagan, J. Ventura, and the gubernator, et al., in politics?


No. But I don't see why being an entertainer precludes you from being politcal.

I can't argue now because my 3 year old has finally learnt for himself why he was told off repeatedly for stealing knives and playing with them. Now he knows the reason and we have a lot of tears.

But please do give us a link to the video. I'm sure it must be good then. Wink
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huffdaddy



Joined: 25 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
Big_Bird wrote:
Who decided that entertainers are not supposed to have a political side?


As far as your second question: me. I decided. And, in this case, so did a sufficient number of Minn.'s voters, this time


A 200 vote deficit is a mandate against entertainers being political?

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-- and I take it that you support R. Reagan, J. Ventura, and the gubernator, et al., in politics?


Where has anyone said they should be "banned" from politics. Just because I disagree with someone's political view doesn't mean I think they shouldn't have a voice and the right to be in office.

Do they have less of a right to speak than you? Or are you just jealous that their voice is heard a lot more than yours?

BigBird wrote:
I can't argue now because my 3 year old has finally learnt for himself why he was told off repeatedly for stealing knives and playing with them. Now he knows the reason and we have a lot of tears.


Sounds like a metaphor for Obama's victory.
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Milwaukiedave



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
I do not want this invective-spitting, mocking baboon who knows nothing else walking the Senate's halls. I am glad he has lost this bid.


Ha! Gopher calls me partisan after posting something like this. I by no means like Coleman, but would not insult him. Talk about hypocrisy!
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Huffdaddy: again, first get my position right, then I will respond to your good-faith questions.

Milwaukiedave: I miss your E. Cartman avatar; it better projected your personality.

You misunderstand my position here: I could not care less about A. Franken's opponent in this election. I only care that A. Franken loses, which he has in fact done.
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Milwaukiedave



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher: Anyone that calls someone a baboon because they don't like or even know anything about their stance on the issues is pretty damn partisan. You are a hypocrite.
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And you are a churl, always so suspicious that I am really angling to do something else that it becomes impossible to exchange with you. I do not use "churl" here casually, Milwaukiedave.

And no matter how we see each other, your baboon hero has still lost this bid. Razz


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huffdaddy



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
Huffdaddy: again, first get my position right, then I will respond to your good-faith questions.


Oh really. Bless my heart. The Gopher will respond to my questions.

You don't think someone who wrote books (which you probably haven't read) titled "Rush Limbaugh Is a Big Fat Idiot and Other Observations" and "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right" is suitable for public office. Frankly, I could care less. That's not your choice to make. At least not in this case.
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Point taken. I do not live in Minn. Oh, forlorn.

But I do get to celebrate A. Franken's loss, Huffdaddy. That is my prerogative in American politics and as a poster on this messageboard -- just like all of the condescending Canadians and Western Europeans who get to disdain all of us here, too.
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Milwaukiedave



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
And you are a churl, always so suspicious that I am really angling to do something else that it becomes impossible to exchange with you. I do not use "churl" here casually, Milwaukiedave.

And no matter how we see each other, your baboon hero has still lost this bid. Razz


Hmm...to quote Reagan, "There you go again."

As to the Minnesota US Senate race, it's far from over yet

Even the AP has retracted their call:

AP Uncalls Minnesota Senate Race

Of course that doesn't stop you being the big bad partisan you are.
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huffdaddy



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:

But I do get to celebrate A. Franken's loss, Huffdaddy. That is my prerogative in American politics and as a poster on this messageboard -- just like all of the condescending Canadians and Western Europeans who get to disdain all of us here, too.


So we can agree it's safe to slot you in the same "condescending" category as the Canadians and Europeans you yourself disdain? If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
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Milwaukiedave



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

huffdaddy wrote:
Gopher wrote:

But I do get to celebrate A. Franken's loss, Huffdaddy. That is my prerogative in American politics and as a poster on this messageboard -- just like all of the condescending Canadians and Western Europeans who get to disdain all of us here, too.


So we can agree it's safe to slot you in the same "condescending" category...


Hey that does fit him well. Not two days after we elect a new president and he's going around saying, "I told you so." Sounds more like a 5th grade bully to me.
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huffdaddy



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:

But I do get to celebrate A. Franken's loss, Huffdaddy.


I hope you enjoyed your two months of celebrating.

Star-Tribune
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DFLer Al Franken won an impressive share Saturday of what may be the last ballots tallied in the U.S. Senate recount, boosting his unofficial lead over Sen. Norm Coleman to 225 votes heading into a Monday meeting where the state Canvassing Board will certify the final result of the race.

At least two things, however, still stand in the way of Franken becoming Minnesota's newest U.S. senator: the possibility of a ruling by the Minnesota Supreme Court that more wrongly rejected absentee ballots should be counted, and a legal contest that Coleman attorneys all but promised should Franken prevail.

It took only an hour Saturday afternoon for election officials to count 933 absentee ballots that all sides had agreed were wrongly rejected. Franken won 52 percent of them and Coleman captured 33 percent (the rest went to other candidates or cast no vote in the Senate race). It was a surprisingly muscular margin that was reflected in the glum looks of Coleman staffers and the satisfied appearance of Franken's staff.

Franken started the day with an unofficial lead of 49 votes. He achieved a net gain of 176 votes on Saturday.

Coleman's attorneys said that depending on what the court decides, they would be ready to file a legal action contesting the recount results as early as Tuesday. Recount attorney Fritz Knaak said that he believed 300 to 400 ballots would go Coleman's way in a contest, including through the addition of absentee ballots so far excluded and the elimination of so-called "double votes" in Minneapolis.

"We are prepared to go forward and take whatever legal action is necessary to ... remedy this artificial lead that we believe is being shown now for the Franken campaign," Knaak said.

Franken recount attorney Marc Elias was somewhat restrained in his comments following the counting, expressing satisfaction that the disputed absentee votes were counted and confidence that Franken will be declared the winner Monday.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's official. Minnesota has certified Franken as the new junior senator.

Some reactions:
Al Franken Is the Right's New Punching Bag

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-01-05/al-franken-is-a-big-fat-target/

Cornyn: Franken has no 'legal right'

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/17056.html

Should the Right really make an issue of Franken, won't they risk offending Minnesotans and push moderates away?
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