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teachteach



Joined: 26 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 9:35 pm    Post subject: Korean superiority complex strikes again Reply with quote

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2008/11/113_34140.html

My fav part: The test-flight of the T-50 by pilots from the U.S. Navy Test Pilot School means the superiority of the T-50 jet and the South Korean Air Force's advanced training program has been recognized by the U.S. Navy," the Air Force said in a press release.

As a pilot I find this funny. Personally, even as a Canadian, I give kudos to the Americans in aviation. They have the best pilots and make the best planes. I would say the only group of pilots 2nd best are the Israelis, British, or Ethiopians, and even they come in a distant second.
I met a few Korean pilots in Vancouver. They are not very professional. They are just arrogant and scions of rich families for the most part.
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travelingfool



Joined: 10 Mar 2008
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Korean superiority complex strikes again Reply with quote

teachteach wrote:
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2008/11/113_34140.html

My fav part: The test-flight of the T-50 by pilots from the U.S. Navy Test Pilot School means the superiority of the T-50 jet and the South Korean Air Force's advanced training program has been recognized by the U.S. Navy," the Air Force said in a press release.

As a pilot I find this funny. Personally, even as a Canadian, I give kudos to the Americans in aviation. They have the best pilots and make the best planes. I would say the only group of pilots 2nd best are the Israelis, British, or Ethiopians, and even they come in a distant second.
I met a few Korean pilots in Vancouver. They are not very professional. They are just arrogant and scions of rich families for the most part.


Superiority over what? That statement is a big ambiguous. Superiority over the US Navy? Well, I am sure they are because after all they have the highest IQ in the world. So does that mean we can pull our military out of here now?
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Zolt



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

South Korean pilots are a joke, but now they're a joke recognized by the US Navy. I hope it makes them feel better.
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teachteach



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as they have worlds highest IQ i guess we are in good hands.
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Pooty



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea wild blue yonder!

(nah, that doesn't work does it?)
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ChinaBoy



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 5:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Korean superiority complex strikes again Reply with quote

teachteach wrote:
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2008/11/113_34140.html

My fav part: The test-flight of the T-50 by pilots from the U.S. Navy Test Pilot School means the superiority of the T-50 jet and the South Korean Air Force's advanced training program has been recognized by the U.S. Navy," the Air Force said in a press release.



The grammar indicates that only the South Korean Air Force's training program HAS been recognized by the U.S. Navy. Had they meant to include the superiority, they would have said HAVE.

Korea Times might have combined two sentences with an "and" there in an attempt to be misleading (or just confused).
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Louie



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The funny thing is: ROKAF didn't have an independent command until 1994, when Korea gained independent peacetime command from the USFK/CFC/UNC
And KorMoD didn't have its own training program until the late-90's and many new pilots are still trained in Kunsan with USAF instructors........

talk about Corea Sparkling* Rolling Eyes
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i4NI



Joined: 17 May 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's more hilarious how worked up some of you get over these kinds of threads... especially you Canadians.
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Louie



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i4NT~ Love the avitar!- it fits Korean nationalism to a tee..... Wink
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victorology



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i4NI wrote:
I think it's more hilarious how worked up some of you get over these kinds of threads... especially you Canadians.


I agree.
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i4NI



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Louie wrote:
i4NT~ Love the avitar!- it fits Korean nationalism to a tee..... Wink

Actually Korean nationalists wouldn't like it, it's a mix of the old imperial Japanese flag and Korean flag.
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Adventurer



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Korean superiority complex strikes again Reply with quote

teachteach wrote:
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2008/11/113_34140.html

My fav part: The test-flight of the T-50 by pilots from the U.S. Navy Test Pilot School means the superiority of the T-50 jet and the South Korean Air Force's advanced training program has been recognized by the U.S. Navy," the Air Force said in a press release.

As a pilot I find this funny. Personally, even as a Canadian, I give kudos to the Americans in aviation. They have the best pilots and make the best planes. I would say the only group of pilots 2nd best are the Israelis, British, or Ethiopians, and even they come in a distant second.
I met a few Korean pilots in Vancouver. They are not very professional. They are just arrogant and scions of rich families for the most part.



Korea has thousands of native speakers, but they don't spend the money in many cases needed for editing to make sure that something makes sense. Some people in Korea don't understand the difference between superiority and superb. In this case, they mean that their program was recognized by the U.S. to be an excellent one, and not to mean better than that of Israel or England or what have you. Don't take this too seriously. Another poster mentioned someone reading "superiority of Korean culture". In that case, it means advanced culture, not necessarily better than that of Japan or France. Of course, there is too much nationalism in Korea.
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Louie



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the avitar implies more to the "munsae" nationalistic feeling that surrounds Korea these days...much like the "Tojo" years of imperial Japan...
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diver



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No doubt the USN was impressed by these fantastic displays of airmanship.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/abramsv/R9zh1qtLiSI/AAAAAAAALuQ/zBNucEHackw/2070962478_950f231960_o.jpg

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_mRxs3DT2wAQ/R2mzHDFtkrI/AAAAAAAAIT8/LrkmEjbMOPc/GEVVRC_02853.jpg (This pic explained by the text below)

Subject: Oops!!!!
This makes you wonder.
Anybody got plans to fly on a Korean airline?? You might want to reconsider.
Who needs wing walkers????
Nov. 11th/98. The wing of an Asiana 747-400 cuts into the tail of a parked Aeroflot IL62 at Anchorage International Airport while trying to make a U-turn in a parking bay. No serious injuries reported. The best part of the story was forwarded by a Captain witnessing the event from a safe distance:
Gudday folks, true story, worth reading... Just into Anchorage and looking at all the Korean debris on the airfield. What a beautiful job the Asiana boy did in his 747-400. (word is he was an ex KAL guy, Capt. Kim Dae Woo, makes sense!) Asiana is KAL's "opposition" company, also run by the military cronies. Pranged in Anchorage trying to do a "U" turn in a parking bay... in a 747-400???? Poor Aeroflot was in the way though, minding his business, parked at the gate with passengers on board. Asiana thumped his # 1 engine against Aeroflot's wing and tore open the engine cowling and fuel lines on the 747, pissing fuel all over the apron. With standard Korean procedure, that calls for more power so you can get out of the way and hope nobody saw! This he did, but it was icy as hell on the ramp. The skid started and took out 2 Evergreen staff vehicles sending the occupants fleeing for cover.> > >

THE CIRCUS HAD BEGUN!
Still more power and he put his left wing (last 15-20 feet) into the vertical stab of the IL62 and cut into the tail about 15 feet. When he reached the main spar of the vertical stab... the 747 stopped... you guessed it..... MORE POWER!!! I think he thought there was still time to run for it but he didn't seem to be going anywhere.......SO..........MORE POWER!!!!!!!!!!!! In trying to escape the grips of the Russian aircraft, he managed to reach take-off thrust, and in so doing, put a bunch of containers behind the aircraft through the terminal building and trashed it. Heard NCA got it in the lamps, Japanese must be pleased about that! Still no shutdown or evacuation (fuel still pissing everywhere over the apron from the 747 #1 engine) The Yank ground mechanics finally managed to run over and told them to shut the aircraft down but the crew were busy writing a report for management to apportion the blame. mmmmmmmm.....Yes, PLEASE???!!! Hell, no one is safe around these guys! After the entertainment ended, spoke to our crew driver and she said the two vehicles he hit during his exhibition were badly trashed. The Asiana aircraft is looking quite sad. Took all day yesterday to separate the two aircraft and in desperation, the mechanics finally had to cut about 20 feet of the Asiana left wing off to get the aircraft apart. Talk about "dog lock"! The engine is off and the cowlings are all torn open. The opposition (Aeroflot) was taking cover in the hangar...Good idea! Well, not to be outdone, KAL landed a 747 freighter the very next day on the runway lights on 6R!!! Lights, tyres, stuff everywhere.... you know the rest. That makes 9 accidents in 2.5 months for KAL of which one was a 747-400 hull write off. Now that takes some beating that record!!! (Oh, we're not even counting the 747-300 in Guam... that was last years score) Ah yes, another boring day in aviation! Y'awl be careful out there!!!! (from http://marinecrashcrew.com/pictures.htm)
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GwangjuParents



Joined: 31 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As a pilot I find this funny. Personally, even as a Canadian, I give kudos to the Americans in aviation. They have the best pilots and make the best planes. I would say the only group of pilots 2nd best are the Israelis, British, or Ethiopians, and even they come in a distant second.
I met a few Korean pilots in Vancouver. They are not very professional. They are just arrogant and scions of rich families for the most part.


Talk about a racist attitude. I'm sure KAL crews were no doubt laughing about the utter unprofessionalism and sheer sloppiness of the Air Canada crew who nearly landed their Airbus at a 3500 foot strip in the interior of British Columbia. How do even you make a mistake like that in an Airbus?

http://www.tsb.gc.ca/en/reports/air/2003/a03p0259/a03p0259.asp?print_view=1

I'm also sure that that most KAL pilots would laugh at the 'bend-over-and-take-it-up-the-ass' approach to labor relations that most American and Canadian pilots subscribe to...
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