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jkelly80



Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's 25/hr that's ridiculous.
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Tommy



Joined: 24 Aug 2005

PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I interviewed with them 2 weeks back. At the time I was sick and had just heard that they didn't offer housing, so I wasn't that enthusiastic going into it.

I sat down with the national recruiter, Neil, who was genuinely a nice guy but for the most part it felt like a sales pitch.. "We're the best" etc, and it lasted a lonnnnng time (at 90 minutes I had to cut the interview short to get to work).

The thing that really got to me, was after telling me the one thing that separated WSI from the other adult hagwons was their extremely high tuition, they could only offer 2.3 WITH NO HOUSING! Housing options included 10 mil key money OR 100,000 /month extra (so 2.4).
I got the feeling they really push the part-time work as they'll let you work a second job and there's potential to make quite a bit of money. But that essentially means split-shift, and I was only looking for full-time block shift Sad

Got asked questions like, "With 2~3 years experience, what do you bring to the table which someone with a PhD can't offer?" I personally know 2 people who were hired there right after graduation and flied over with zero experience. Another thing that made me laugh was begin told that only those with PhDs or tons of certs would be offered 2.4~2.5 .... still with no housing Rolling Eyes
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Toon Army



Joined: 12 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2.3/2.4 and no housing...... that sucks.....who takes these jobs?

Out of interest what do they usually give for part time/hourly salaries?
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artemisia



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The posts here have mostly been positive though I'd have to agree with the last one - no housing for that money? No way. Sad
I worked (for a short time) for WSI in Germany. Different country and a long time ago but it didn't suit me at all. Maybe they've improved their materials since those days but I disliked the lack of freedom in what I could teach and the clincher for me was the day I was forced to deliver a (useless) grammar filled lesson to a student who'd just told me how stressed he was about grammar.
I can't remember exactly which grammar point it was but it was a write off. If it had been up to me I'd have tailored the classes around what he actually needed English for (his job) and slipped (useful) grammar in through the back door, so to speak. It wasn't possible to do that back then and I bet it still isn't. If students didn't get the particular lesson (sometimes filled with ridiculous esoteric vocab etc.) then they'd be behind for their self learning sessions in the lab (and it would be obvious the material in class hadn't been done as laid out). Anyway, I left WSI and went back to freelancing.
Not all lessons were bad though and maybe it IS a better option than some schools in Korea?
Basically I've just never met (worked in) a chain language school I liked.
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Forbidden-Donut



Joined: 17 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Working part-time at Wall Street is a pretty good deal. Yea, its only $25/hr, but they will provide up to a 10mil housing deposit, sponsor your visa, and legally allow you to work a second job. Seems worth it.

The classes are for the most part pretty easy too. Not much real 'teaching' since the students learn everything on their own, its more correcting mistakes they make during class activities. No prep needed for any classes after the first month/two months. One class has no teaching whatsoever, all you have to do is talk to students in the main lobby area.
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justin moffatt



Joined: 29 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had a few colleagues that have worked at WSI. They claim that aesthetically it looks professional, however, adminstration often bundles things on a regular basis. It sounded like a decent first time job for newbies with little to no teaching experience, who aren't concerned with quality lessons . . .

On the other hand, I am sure that if their evaluations aren't high (by using shoddy curriculum) that the instructor's are quickly shown the door.
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i4NI



Joined: 17 May 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jkelly80 wrote:
If it's 25/hr that's ridiculous.

don't most hagwon teachers make 15/hr?
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Tommy



Joined: 24 Aug 2005

PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i4NI wrote:
don't most hagwon teachers make 15/hr?

Sure.. but that's 15/hr plus housing, fight, health care, etc. Part time work is the money and that's it (pretty much).
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bogey666



Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone

PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tommy wrote:
i4NI wrote:
don't most hagwon teachers make 15/hr?

Sure.. but that's 15/hr plus housing, fight, health care, etc. Part time work is the money and that's it (pretty much).


hey I'm kinda messing with you, but I hope with 2-3 years experience that "flied" was a brain fart Smile

good info though!
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roknroll



Joined: 29 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bogey666 wrote:
Tommy wrote:
i4NI wrote:
don't most hagwon teachers make 15/hr?

Sure.. but that's 15/hr plus housing, fight, health care, etc. Part time work is the money and that's it (pretty much).


hey I'm kinda messing with you, but I hope with 2-3 years experience that "flied" was a brain fart Smile

good info though!


yes, good info..........maybe the mistake has come from watching too much baseball--He flied into right field.
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buymybook



Joined: 21 Feb 2005
Location: Telluride

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forbidden-Donut wrote:
Working part-time at Wall Street is a pretty good deal. Yea, its only $25/hr, but they will provide up to a 10mil housing deposit, sponsor your visa, and legally allow you to work a second job. Seems worth it.

The classes are for the most part pretty easy too. Not much real 'teaching' since the students learn everything on their own, its more correcting mistakes they make during class activities. No prep needed for any classes after the first month/two months. One class has no teaching whatsoever, all you have to do is talk to students in the main lobby area.


Yes, you can make some money for 1 year if working part-time with permission to work at another place ubut if you do make some money you will probably could be making more than the Program Manager which the Program Manager doesn't like. WSI likes to hire FRESH Program Managers from a far who are friends with current Program Managers so they don't make much when they begin.

Don't plan to work for WSI if you are making good bank, they don't like it. Yes, they'll let you for 1 year but that's about it. After 1 year they like to kiss you good-bye. Of course that is if you are on an E-2 visa and rely on their permission to work at another place. They probably won't let you do that and make more money than the Program Manager 2 years in a row.

And let's not forget where they try to assist you to work elsewhere, the infamous after-school programs who mess with most any benefit you are usually entitled.
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TECO



Joined: 20 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would never work for Wall Street full time but part-time might be an option, depending on the hours. It's not a very good company to work for and if you do a search lots has been written about Wall Street in places like Thailand, Taiwan and here.
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swashbuckler



Joined: 20 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

squinchboy wrote:
Here's the little I do know about the place:
I was going to work there. I was told I would make 2.3w and have a block shift from 1 to 10pm. I don't think rent money was provided due to it being in Seoul.
I really liked the place, especially their English immersion environment they had in their center. Why did I not take the job? I was offered a uni position ,so ,naturally, I had to take that instead.
In my opinion, I think it would be a fine place to work. Smile


Hello, I am interested in a full-time position with Wall Street Institute. However, those hours (1-10) seem VERY long and not really worth it for 2.3 (housing not included?). Is 9 teaching hours a day the norm for WSI? Also, are you required to be on-site when you aren't teaching?

Is there anyone out there on Dave's who is working or has worked full-time for WSI in the past? thanks!
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RMNC



Joined: 21 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honestly, teaching adults is better than having free housing and teaching kids, in my opinion.
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Los Angeloser



Joined: 26 Aug 2010
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basically, you'll be working for so called Program Managers(Schedulers) who think they are pretty cool and are foreigners/F-2 visa holders married to Korean women. Good luck to all E-2 visa holders. They say they're there to help you but won't go out of their way one bit to do so when it really counts.
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