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You_are_a_seed_foot_nom
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| There's something embarrassing about seeing a Korean guy all blinged up like a gangsta rapper who's exclusively singing songs about his best girl. |
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samcheokguy
Joined: 02 Nov 2008
Location: Samcheok G-do
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| Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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| this poster always reminds me of those guys you see in the drivers-ed vidoes in highschool. You know the ones where the guys get in motorcycle accidents and lose half their brain. |
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jkelly80
Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?
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| Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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| You're a disgusting little insect, 촌놈씨 |
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red_devil
Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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First of all it's obvious some of you don't even understand Korean music. You're quick to automatically throw them into ghetto-thug-wannabe-poser-rappers. Which is largely UNTRUE for most Korean hip hop. Like i mentioned in the other thread there ARE some that are pathetic posers - 1TYM is guilty as charged.
But most are not even RAP, it's hip hop. Know the fucking difference. Also Korea is making their own unique fusion of hip hop+dance which is nothing LIKE American rap. Groups like Epik High, Dynamic Duo, Mighty Mouth, Wheesung, DT, MC Mong, MC Sniper are not rapping but doing a fusion of dance+hip hop or what i call a "poppy-hip hop". |
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traxxe
Joined: 21 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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Everytime I see a sideways hat wearing, baggy pants, bling pimp'n Korean trying to act like he is a G I have to laugh a little.
I have one student in my class whose English name is Gangsta. He's the symbol of why no one takes Korean RAP seriously. Koreans are not hardcore in their hip hop/rap environment. Street cred in Korea is rubbing up against some waegookin' *beep* while he's passed out at the jim jill bong under the Hamilton.
I'm all for Korean's expressing themselves in dance/hip hop. Just don't claim to be a 'G' when the only set you know came from the McD and BK menu. |
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dossi
Joined: 19 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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Any Korean pop or hiphop music that gets regular air time on TV sucks.
similar to how MTV sucks in the states.
Hello OP, you sound so damn desperate. Why do you need approval from others to enjoy your music? |
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EuroFunk
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: jobless in Busan
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| Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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It's hard to say what is good and what is bad since music is different to everyone.
youtube djmax portable and watch some of the videos. |
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komtengi
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
Location: Slummin it up in Haebangchon
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uberscheisse
Joined: 02 Dec 2003
Location: japan is better than korea.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:18 am Post subject: |
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one of my favorite hiphop lyrics ever heard in korean - no word of a lie... the whole rap was in korean and interspersed with "budda-budda budda APKUJEONG.... budda-budda-budda GANGNAM!"
but the chorus went "i'm gonna keep thuggin' till my parents come GET ME!"
like.. can you imagine that?
"beep!"
"uh, sorry guys - hold my piece, my moms just rollled up. i have hagwon in the morning. entrance exams'nshit."
"yeaaah kiggga, word."
i'm sure some of it's good but the lion's share of it is fakeass crap with bad flow. epik fail. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:27 am Post subject: |
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| red_devil wrote: |
First of all it's obvious some of you don't even understand Korean music. You're quick to automatically throw them into ghetto-thug-wannabe-poser-rappers. Which is largely UNTRUE for most Korean hip hop. Like i mentioned in the other thread there ARE some that are pathetic posers - 1TYM is guilty as charged.
But most are not even RAP, it's hip hop. Know the fucking difference. Also Korea is making their own unique fusion of hip hop+dance which is nothing LIKE American rap. Groups like Epik High, Dynamic Duo, Mighty Mouth, Wheesung, DT, MC Mong, MC Sniper are not rapping but doing a fusion of dance+hip hop or what i call a "poppy-hip hop". |
In other words, it's basically pop music with a few talkie parts thrown in and a couple other cliched trappings of black music, which they probably don't even acknowledge as black music. |
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Ilsanman
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:59 am Post subject: |
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| It all sucks. |
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uberscheisse
Joined: 02 Dec 2003
Location: japan is better than korea.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:00 am Post subject: |
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| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
| red_devil wrote: |
First of all it's obvious some of you don't even understand Korean music. You're quick to automatically throw them into ghetto-thug-wannabe-poser-rappers. Which is largely UNTRUE for most Korean hip hop. Like i mentioned in the other thread there ARE some that are pathetic posers - 1TYM is guilty as charged.
But most are not even RAP, it's hip hop. Know the fucking difference. Also Korea is making their own unique fusion of hip hop+dance which is nothing LIKE American rap. Groups like Epik High, Dynamic Duo, Mighty Mouth, Wheesung, DT, MC Mong, MC Sniper are not rapping but doing a fusion of dance+hip hop or what i call a "poppy-hip hop". |
In other words, it's basically pop music with a few talkie parts thrown in and a couple other cliched trappings of black music, which they probably try to prove is uniquely korean music. |
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red_devil
Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:39 am Post subject: |
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| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
| red_devil wrote: |
First of all it's obvious some of you don't even understand Korean music. You're quick to automatically throw them into ghetto-thug-wannabe-poser-rappers. Which is largely UNTRUE for most Korean hip hop. Like i mentioned in the other thread there ARE some that are pathetic posers - 1TYM is guilty as charged.
But most are not even RAP, it's hip hop. Know the fucking difference. Also Korea is making their own unique fusion of hip hop+dance which is nothing LIKE American rap. Groups like Epik High, Dynamic Duo, Mighty Mouth, Wheesung, DT, MC Mong, MC Sniper are not rapping but doing a fusion of dance+hip hop or what i call a "poppy-hip hop". |
In other words, it's basically pop music with a few talkie parts thrown in and a couple other cliched trappings of black music, which they probably don't even acknowledge as black music. |
If that's what you call hip hop...like i SAID it's a fusion. It's not thug rap but it's not pop music with a few talkie parts in it either. I'd say it's something like Korean spoken word on a melodic harmony and driving beats. They typically feature a vocal singer for the chorus/refrains which is not much different than American hip hop. And before you start labeling me as a Korean apologist or some shit, i totally agree with you about the Korean "thug wannabes" that go around acting Black and all hard. It's hilarious and pathetic...happens in the states too though. The thugwannabe's in wife-beaters that do donuts in the parking lot, talk trash and bump their shitty 12" subs until their cars vibrate...and honestly, i think the way black rappers in the states dress is ridiculous as well.
Examples of Dance+Hip Hop fusion:
I have props for these guys because they're not trying to be hard, and thuggish. The style IS more light because they aren't talking about drugs, gangs, shootings, and living in the ghettos listening to crack whores screaming all night. Some of you guys seem like you're determined to bash Korean anything. Try listening to some of these with a bit of open mind.
P.S. A lot of idiots start bitching when they think they're saying "nigga" in their rap but it's not.
Epik High - Tablo is a Stanford grad, English Lit major, really smart guy, humble too.
(early stuff)
I Remember - http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj2OhW9Czw0
Day of Peace - http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=tpeS8Pr23pc
(then they got more dance/poppish)
Love, love, love - http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=1RTl3HXK_NI
One - http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=K-0QRO3Cdjc
Fan - http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=PJEruchZkBk
Drunken Tiger (Tiger JK)
8:45 - http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=U1jP4xS_mTY
I Hate Myself - http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=0-vyoA5T8YU
MC Sniper
For You - http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=PHVyyh65-BY
Better Than Yesterday - http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=rZu-tN3asJQ
Big Bang - probably the best example of dance+hip hop
Lie - http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=57GPGTOwSPE
Last Farewell - http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=zGgPeAew_T0
Haru Haru - http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=OUkRfmUTXKM
MC Mong
Ice Cream - http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=xYhLfJtjelg
Circus - http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=TTUclwr-Jo0
Dynamic Duo
Chul Chek - http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=wLXqoGYSvAk
Solo - http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=qV5DJPMVXqU
Mighty Mouth
Energy - http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=nM6Akq4oRGI
I Love You - http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq1oZ6xnk5Q
Wheesung - not a hardcore hip hop guy but it's an example of the style.
Love Is Delicious - http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=n8iJgrvCvQo |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:32 am Post subject: |
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Oh yeah, I heard that "Niga" song playing in a Buy the Way once. It's funny, and I bet it was intentional.
What, then, is the difference between all of this hip-hop and mainstream Korean pop? |
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