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Atramentous

Joined: 12 Jan 2008 Location: Ansan
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:37 am Post subject: Two people - not a couple |
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How would my friend and I go about getting hired at the same school or in schools that are in proximity to one another? We see alot of "couple" job notices but we are not a couple, just good friends. We both have teaching certifications from our respective nations. I am sort of american and she is South African. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:52 am Post subject: Re: Two people - not a couple |
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Atramentous wrote: |
How would my friend and I go about getting hired at the same school or in schools that are in proximity to one another? We see alot of "couple" job notices but we are not a couple, just good friends. We both have teaching certifications from our respective nations. I am sort of american and she is South African. |
Either you are American (have the passport) or you aren't.
Contact a bunch of recruiters and tell them what you want. There are lots of openings and opportunities.
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Tobias

Joined: 02 Jun 2008
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:55 am Post subject: What they want |
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I assume you are a guy.
Getting hired at the same school may be a bit of a problem. It's the 'living arrangements' thing. In Korea, a man and a woman who are not married, yet are living together, is a big taboo.
I will make the leap and guess that this school wants a couple because they're trying to put two teachers in the same apartment, and thus have to rent only one pad.
You'll find a higher probability of success if you try to get jobs at different schools that are close together. You'll then live in separate apartments, which will make the locals happy. And believe your neighbors for blocks around will know about you within days upon your arrival to your new neighborhood. |
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KYC
Joined: 11 May 2006
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:04 am Post subject: |
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There is no "sort of." Check your passport...does it say USA?
Just tell the recruiters and push for it..it'll happen. If they tell you they can't, find another recruiter. |
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Provence
Joined: 18 Oct 2008 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:36 am Post subject: |
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I honestly don�t see this as a problem. There are literally hagwons on every block here in Korea. You could probably end up working on the same block for different schools. However, the "sort of American" could be a problem. Do you have dual citizenship with another country? In which case if the other country is a non-English speaking country I wouldn�t even tell them as it will not help you, only cause confusion. Koreans don�t allow duel citizenships so they might not fully understand the concept. |
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BigBuds

Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Location: Changwon
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:59 am Post subject: |
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Check your inbow. |
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Atramentous

Joined: 12 Jan 2008 Location: Ansan
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:20 am Post subject: |
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Right. To clear things up. I am a dual citizen. I do have an American passport. The other passport is also from an english-speaking nation. I am going with the American one since I completed most of my university education in the US. Sorry if I stepped on any toes with the "sort of" American. There was no intended insult to the US of A.
I did not know that men and women living together when not married was a cultural no-no in Korea. Good to know, however, not a problem as I am a woman. I think that the title of the thread might of been misleading.
I have been looking at different recruitment agencies and I am not sure what to think. What would be the signs that the agency is not awful? |
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Teelo

Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Location: Wellington, NZ
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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They might assume some lesbo action is going on  |
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Countrygirl
Joined: 19 Nov 2007 Location: in the classroom
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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People are assuming that you want to bunk together but from your post it just looks like you want to work close to each other.
For a hogwan, that would normally be no problem. And your housing would be very close to each other. For a public school, it would be a little difficult, but possible. Just tell the recruiter. When they try to push jobs on you that are too far apart, then just say no. You might have better luck during the peak hiring season of March or Sept. for public schools.
If you are a little picky, you will enjoy your year in Korea much better than if you bend to a recruiters demands. Don't be afraid to say "no". |
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Countrygirl
Joined: 19 Nov 2007 Location: in the classroom
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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Teelo wrote: |
They might assume some lesbo action is going on  |
Ironically, if lesbians roomed together Koreans would never guess.
But if friends roomed together, then some typical hard-up posters on Dave's would assume that they are lesbos. |
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Tobias

Joined: 02 Jun 2008
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:04 pm Post subject: Maybe |
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Countrygirl wrote: |
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Ironically, if lesbians roomed together Koreans would never guess.
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Maybe so. It would depend on how many bedrooms the apartment has. My guess is the school is looking for a husband/wife team so it has to rent only a single one-bedroom pad. |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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Countrygirl wrote: |
Teelo wrote: |
They might assume some lesbo action is going on  |
Ironically, if lesbians roomed together Koreans would never guess.
But if friends roomed together, then some typical hard-up posters on Dave's would assume that they are lesbos. |
Lots small, cramped one-room apartments in Seoul being shared by 2 Korean women who have to lay scantily clad next to each other in the hot sweatering summers. |
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refikaM

Joined: 06 May 2006 Location: Gangwondo
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:16 pm Post subject: couples in korea |
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OK.. I know couples (male/female) living together.. teaching in the same town, but not the same schools (public).. and they are NOT married.. Seems to be no problem for them at all... Every couple I know has AT LEAST a TWO bedroom apt.. and often some have THREE... So, putting two "non-coupled" people in the same apt shouldn't be a prob... As a poster mentioned above, just let your recruiters know your situation. I don't believe people are going to automatically think you're homesexual.. methinks that's a bit of hype ... Anyway, good luck.. You should be able to at least teach in the same area/town/city and still share an apt if you look for public school jobs.. Dunno about the hogwan thing.. |
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Tobias

Joined: 02 Jun 2008
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:18 pm Post subject: But is anything happening? |
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That's allowed, Pkang, because Koreans know those scantily-clad lassies are programed to act 'properly'. If they stray, they will be punished by losing face. Foreigners know no such limitations, and wouldn't respect those anyway, so their shenanigans are nipped early.
When you are immune from the pressures of Face, you must be kept on a leash here. |
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Perceptioncheck
Joined: 13 Oct 2008
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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A friend and I were in exactly the same position as you.
We decided to go the public school route and the recruiters assurances changed from being able to house us together being able to house us within walking distance not having a freakin' clue as to where our housing even was. Needless to say, we were not impressed but due to time/financial restraints we had to take the jobs. (As luck would have it, our houses WERE very close together but this could just as easily not have been the case)
So all I can say is good luck. Make sure your recruiter understands your EXACT requirements and if they keep changing their story, change recruiters; they need you more than you need them. |
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