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obsession with whites and whiteness in Korea
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wayfarer



Joined: 05 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:11 am    Post subject: obsession with whites and whiteness in Korea Reply with quote

It's just weird and bizarre and off-putting to me.

Never mind the derision that overweight foreigners inevitably must get behind their backs from Koreans. Unfortunately they're just living up to every stereotype about the fat American, so that's to be expected.

I'm more perplexed by the other side of it.

From the pervert across the hall from my friend's apartment who leaves his door open to masturbate when she walks out, to the elderly head teacher at my school who lusts after me, to the ever-present white models in Korean clothing advertising, to the countless koreans getting eyelid and nose surgery...

S. Korea has no history of colonization by European powers, which is what would normally explain this sort of fucked up love/hate relationship with white skin. They have their own celebrities, their own tv, their own cinema. They have an economy near the world's top. So, why is it?
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kentucker4



Joined: 03 Sep 2007
Location: Georgia

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why are there so few fat Koreans? Westerners could learn a lot in that department. Face it, most fat people live their lives making excuses for themselves when all they have to do is not eat and excercise harder. I don't blame K-people for sneering behind their backs.
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optik404



Joined: 24 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

white models in ads are pretty much worldwide
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wasn't it Tyra Banks who was suing some big woman's magazine because there were just no black models. Everywhere in the world, even our own countries see white as beautiful. I am not saying this is right or wrong, just what is.
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jkelly80



Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

White=wealth. Greed is a powerful aphrodisiac.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:20 pm    Post subject: Re: obsession with whites and whiteness in Korea Reply with quote

wayfarer wrote:
It's just weird and bizarre and off-putting to me.

Never mind the derision that overweight foreigners inevitably must get behind their backs from Koreans. Unfortunately they're just living up to every stereotype about the fat American, so that's to be expected.

I'm more perplexed by the other side of it.



Sooooo, you're biatching about Korean stereotypes while you openly spout off about "fat Americans." Rolling Eyes Physician, heal thyself.
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tomato



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you like this store sign?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v500/pentatonika/wf.jpg
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ytuque



Joined: 29 Jan 2008
Location: I drink therefore I am!

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:59 pm    Post subject: Re: obsession with whites and whiteness in Korea Reply with quote

wayfarer wrote:
It's just weird and bizarre and off-putting to me.

Never mind the derision that overweight foreigners inevitably must get behind their backs from Koreans. Unfortunately they're just living up to every stereotype about the fat American, so that's to be expected.

I'm more perplexed by the other side of it.

From the pervert across the hall from my friend's apartment who leaves his door open to masturbate when she walks out, to the elderly head teacher at my school who lusts after me, to the ever-present white models in Korean clothing advertising, to the countless koreans getting eyelid and nose surgery...

S. Korea has no history of colonization by European powers, which is what would normally explain this sort of fucked up love/hate relationship with white skin. They have their own celebrities, their own tv, their own cinema. They have an economy near the world's top. So, why is it?


Many cultures have traditionally valued white skin, and the Koreans are no different. Pale skinned people, especially women, were not out working in the fields during the day. Obviously, the elites had fairer skin than the peasants.
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jdog2050



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:03 pm    Post subject: Re: obsession with whites and whiteness in Korea Reply with quote

ytuque wrote:
wayfarer wrote:
It's just weird and bizarre and off-putting to me.

Never mind the derision that overweight foreigners inevitably must get behind their backs from Koreans. Unfortunately they're just living up to every stereotype about the fat American, so that's to be expected.

I'm more perplexed by the other side of it.

From the pervert across the hall from my friend's apartment who leaves his door open to masturbate when she walks out, to the elderly head teacher at my school who lusts after me, to the ever-present white models in Korean clothing advertising, to the countless koreans getting eyelid and nose surgery...

S. Korea has no history of colonization by European powers, which is what would normally explain this sort of fucked up love/hate relationship with white skin. They have their own celebrities, their own tv, their own cinema. They have an economy near the world's top. So, why is it?


Many cultures have traditionally valued white skin, and the Koreans are no different. Pale skinned people, especially women, were not out working in the fields during the day. Obviously, the elites had fairer skin than the peasants.


It's just a form of greed and self-loathing.

Also, although Korea hasn't been physically colonized by another country, you could make the argument that they've been economically and politically colonized by America.
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Ukon



Joined: 29 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bingo, what ytuque said.

You can now see the opposite in western countries with tanning salons being a dime a dozen....once whit skin is common, it ceases to be as beautiful.

Also koreans are naturally darker.....all my elem kids are far darker than the adults....a little sun and they're tanned....


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Matilda



Joined: 17 Jun 2006
Location: Gimhae gal

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was around the 30's that a tan became popular in Western countries - Coco Chanel popularised the trend as it signified that you were so rich you could afford to have an annual holiday in Canne Wink
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justaguy



Joined: 01 Jan 2008
Location: seoul

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ukon wrote:
Bingo, what ytuque said.

You can now see the opposite in western countries with tanning salons being a dime a dozen....once whit skin is common, it ceases to be as beautiful.

Also koreans are naturally darker.....all my elem kids are far darker than the adults....a little sun and they're tanned....


Ytuque is right.

Skin whitening creams and powders have been used here for thousands of years in China, Korea and Japan. Long before Europeans ever thought of coming here.

A good example would be Japanese Gesha style.

Skin whitening has nothing to do with the west.
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jdog2050



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

justaguy wrote:
Ukon wrote:
Bingo, what ytuque said.

You can now see the opposite in western countries with tanning salons being a dime a dozen....once whit skin is common, it ceases to be as beautiful.

Also koreans are naturally darker.....all my elem kids are far darker than the adults....a little sun and they're tanned....


Ytuque is right.

Skin whitening creams and powders have been used here for thousands of years in China, Korea and Japan. Long before Europeans ever thought of coming here.

A good example would be Japanese Gesha style.

Skin whitening has nothing to do with the west.


Yes, it does.
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jdog2050



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matilda wrote:
It was around the 30's that a tan became popular in Western countries - Coco Chanel popularised the trend as it signified that you were so rich you could afford to have an annual holiday in Canne Wink


speaking of which, I've been seeing more and more tanned koreans in Gangnam. The tide is turning.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:18 pm    Post subject: Re: obsession with whites and whiteness in Korea Reply with quote

When I was in Vancouver I saw a girl with extremely dark skin. It took a while before I figured out she was speaking Korean.

wayfarer wrote:
S. Korea has no history of colonization by European powers, which is what would normally explain this sort of fucked up love/hate relationship with white skin. They have their own celebrities, their own tv, their own cinema. They have an economy near the world's top. So, why is it?


Look at the past 60 years. It's not quite colonialism in the traditional sense, but it has a lot of similarities. Of course the period before that was worse.
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