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GEPIK: No 400k Housing Allowance 'cause we're living in sin?
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linton



Joined: 20 Jun 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you talk with the people at your school or at the head office?

And good luck to you.
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jkelly80



Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tjames426 wrote:
Contracts in Korea are fluid things governed by circumstance, emergencies, and situations.

Sounds like either you or your girlfriends contractual living arrangements have been changed by your own decision and choice. Thus, the school recognizes your change in living arrangements and is adjusting to them.

Why would the school pay for something you do not need? Sounds like you are trying to rip off the School by getting something free.

I'm still wondering why the School should pay a second housing allowance when another apartment is not needed.


Contracts are legally binding documents. Period. Korea's not special, not by a long shot.
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Korussian



Joined: 15 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Linton, thanks for your comment. I talked exclusively with the admins/wrangler at my school. They are all very nice, and, with the exception of my wrangler, quite forthcoming. I don't want to be rude to them by going above their heads before anything's been decided. For now, I'll just accept that they can't or won't speak concretely for a while.

If they come to me one day and say, "oh by the way, you have to move out this weekend", then I'll take it up with the provincial board as a next step.

Since we all know that a situation like that is hardly ridiculous in Korea, that may happen sooner rather than later.

TJames426, I get where you're coming from, but my girlfriend and I prefer to be treated as separate entities, since we teach at different schools and receive separate salaries from separate budgets. Unless the school board feels like giving us a 2 bedroom apartment and calling us married, that means our contracts are those of individual teachers.

I recognize that our preferences with regard to how we should be viewed bureaucratically aren't taken into account by the Koreans who hold power over us. However, as JKelly points out, even in Korea a contract cannot be allowed to become too fluid. Foreign teachers like us need to insist that schools stick to their promises, or else the next generation of foreigners will get even less consideration.
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summer33ny



Joined: 10 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is seriously upsetting... We may be a little late in posting, but my boyfriend and I are in the beginning stages of going through an Epik recruiter for Jeonnam. The recruiter informed us of some prejudices toward couples (and gave us one horror story) and suggested that we may want to say that we are married on our epik application. I said "Well what happens if they find out that that is not the case?.." And he said that something along the lines of ...well that would be your decision sort of thing...and whatever happens is your own problem.

So I was wondering. What should we say? Should we just say we are couple and we're engaged--and just hope for the best or should I say that we are married and play that off and hopefully they will not delve any further and ask for marriage licenses or anything? Any ideas?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

summer33ny wrote:
This is seriously upsetting... We may be a little late in posting, but my boyfriend and I are in the beginning stages of going through an Epik recruiter for Jeonnam. The recruiter informed us of some prejudices toward couples (and gave us one horror story) and suggested that we may want to say that we are married on our epik application. I said "Well what happens if they find out that that is not the case?.." And he said that something along the lines of ...well that would be your decision sort of thing...and whatever happens is your own problem.

So I was wondering. What should we say? Should we just say we are couple and we're engaged--and just hope for the best or should I say that we are married and play that off and hopefully they will not delve any further and ask for marriage licenses or anything? Any ideas?


Unless one of you plans to acquire an F3 (dependent family) visa there won't be anyone asking for your marriage certificate.
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Korussian



Joined: 15 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

summer33ny wrote:
This is seriously upsetting... We may be a little late in posting, but my boyfriend and I are in the beginning stages of going through an Epik recruiter for Jeonnam. The recruiter informed us of some prejudices toward couples (and gave us one horror story) and suggested that we may want to say that we are married on our epik application. I said "Well what happens if they find out that that is not the case?.." And he said that something along the lines of ...well that would be your decision sort of thing...and whatever happens is your own problem.

So I was wondering. What should we say? Should we just say we are couple and we're engaged--and just hope for the best or should I say that we are married and play that off and hopefully they will not delve any further and ask for marriage licenses or anything? Any ideas?


To be honest, I'm not sure what the answer is. We would have avoided a lot of hassle and stink-eye had we just said we were married. At the same time, I don't like to lie, and this is a lie that lasts a year, making it easy to slip up and refer to "my boyfriend" or "my girlfriend" by mistake.

Since we had both been in Korea before, we thought seriously about this question ourselves before arriving this time around. We decided that since we weren't sure which option is best, honesty is the best policy.

After our first month, once everybody got used to the idea that we come as a couple but aren't married, things settled down.

Meanwhile, we're still in limbo as to whether or not we're going to lose our one-bedroom apartment, have to pay double rent, give up the housing allowance, or none of the above.
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marlow



Joined: 06 Feb 2005

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tjames426 wrote:
Contracts in Korea are fluid things governed by circumstance, emergencies, and situations.

Sounds like either you or your girlfriends contractual living arrangements have been changed by your own decision and choice. Thus, the school recognizes your change in living arrangements and is adjusting to them.

Why would the school pay for something you do not need? Sounds like you are trying to rip off the School by getting something free.

I'm still wondering why the School should pay a second housing allowance when another apartment is not needed.


Housing is part of the job package. Money or a place.
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Matilda



Joined: 17 Jun 2006
Location: Gimhae gal

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EPIG in Gimhae doesn't give a hoot about your marital status and provides couple accomodation easily.

Infact, they just asked a female teacher (finishing her hagwon here in town) if she wanted to be moved to a couple apartment when she joins her boyfriend who is currently working in the City Hall program.
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