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bassexpander
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 Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:58 am Post subject: More flights to USA added as visa waiver program begins |
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http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2008/11/119_34363.html
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By Kim Rahn
Staff Reporter
Airlines are rescheduling their flights to the United States, as the demand for flights to the country is expected to rise significantly following a visa waiver program.
The program, which will take effect next Monday, allows Koreans to travel to the U.S. visa-free for up to 90 days.
In the case of Japan, the number of tourists to American cities doubled in three years after the visa waiver program was adopted in 1986. Tourism and aviation experts here forecast the number of Korean travelers to double in less than three years.
In turn, carriers, having decreased capacity or frequency to the U.S. since the beginning of this year due to soaring fuel cost and a declining number of travelers amid the economic slump, are moving to increase the number of flights.
Korean Air will resume the flights between Incheon and Las Vegas on Dec. 16 with three weekly. It suspended the flights in September due to low demand.
The airline will also increase the frequency of the Incheon-Washington and Incheon-San Francisco routes to seven per week from the current four starting Dec. 11 and 12, respectively.
Expecting growing demand, Korean Air already resumed flights on the Incheon-Los Angeles-Sao Paulo route in June, on which it had stopped operating in 2001 due to low demand after the Sept. 11 terrorist attack.
``We are considering increasing capacity or frequency for Hawaii and Los Angeles, as tourist demand for the regions are forecast to rise when the visa waiver program starts,'' a Korean Air official said.
The carrier plans to put A380 super jumbo jets, which will be delivered from 2010, on the routes to U.S. cities such as Los Angeles and New York. B787 planes, which the airline will adopt in 2011, will fly on long-range routes to the U.S.
Asiana Airlines will increase the frequency of Incheon-Seattle flights to four per week from the current three starting Dec. 11. From Dec. 16, the number of weekly flights between Incheon and Los Angeles will also rise to 14 from 11.
``We expect the demand for flights to the U.S. to increase by about 12 percent and annual gains by some 25 billion won,'' an Asiana official said.
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victorology
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:04 am Post subject: |
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| I hope Asiana adds service to Honolulu. They used to fly the route but dropped it years ago. I prefer Star Alliance carriers but have recently flown Korean Air several times since they have service to Hawaii. |
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T-J
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:05 am Post subject: |
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| I wonder how the increased demand will effect prices. |
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doc_ido
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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| I'd like to see the scenes at immigration when people find out that VWP travellers still have to be fingerprinted and photographed. |
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seoulsucker
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Don't know about you guys, but I'm investing heavily into rub 'n tug futures. |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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| T-J wrote: |
| I wonder how the increased demand will effect prices. |
Not only that, but fuel prices as well. They have gone down quite a bit since last summer, but have the ticket prices gone down? My guess is no. |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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Over the summer flights to DC were $2500 or more.
Thats god damn ridiculous. |
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sojourner1
Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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It's expensive to fly internationally, but cheap domestically. I can jet clearly across America for as little as $120 each way. The domestic market is so competively priced due to desparate airlines in a market where consumer demand is low.
If you want to see and do North America, this deep recession is the time to do it as flights and rooms are specially discounted. |
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ChinaBoy
Joined: 17 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:17 am Post subject: |
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| sojourner1 wrote: |
If you want to see and do North America, this deep recession is the time to do it as flights and rooms are specially discounted. |
The weak won is really hurting this idea. Now's the time to get people to visit you in Korea! |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:25 am Post subject: |
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| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| T-J wrote: |
| I wonder how the increased demand will effect prices. |
Not only that, but fuel prices as well. They have gone down quite a bit since last summer, but have the ticket prices gone down? My guess is no. |
Many of the airlines pre-purchased their fuel at a "discounted" rate, so they could save money as fuel went up. The lock into several months this way. Problem is, they locked in at the high summer prices, expecting it could go up by winter.
Now look what happened, and they're still paying the higher prices. |
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victorology
Joined: 10 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:00 am Post subject: |
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| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| T-J wrote: |
| I wonder how the increased demand will effect prices. |
Not only that, but fuel prices as well. They have gone down quite a bit since last summer, but have the ticket prices gone down? My guess is no. |
There's a lag time involved. Also, remember that oil/jet fuel is priced in dollars but Korean carriers pay in won. It also depends on whether or not the Korean carriers placed any hedges on fuel. |
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victorology
Joined: 10 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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| victorology wrote: |
| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| T-J wrote: |
| I wonder how the increased demand will effect prices. |
Not only that, but fuel prices as well. They have gone down quite a bit since last summer, but have the ticket prices gone down? My guess is no. |
There's a lag time involved. Also, remember that oil/jet fuel is priced in dollars but Korean carriers pay in won. It also depends on whether or not the Korean carriers placed any hedges on fuel. |
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200811/200811180013.html |
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Tiger Beer
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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Easier to visit the U.S. for ALL of us in Asia now as well.
I would like to see a Honolulu flight open, but that is open city I'd hate to see filled with Koreans everywhere.
The rest of the U.S., I'd actually like to see MORE Koreans visiting. |
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Frankly Mr Shankly
Joined: 13 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Tiger Beer wrote: |
Easier to visit the U.S. for ALL of us in Asia now as well.
I would like to see a Honolulu flight open, but that is open city I'd hate to see filled with Koreans everywhere.
The rest of the U.S., I'd actually like to see MORE Koreans visiting. |
Good god you are a bizarre character. Any attempt at explaining the (lack of) logic you've used above? Anyhow, I think this spells big discounts at AMPs in California. Rub and Tug, anyone? |
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Mr. Pink
Joined: 21 Oct 2003
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| Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:12 am Post subject: |
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| doc_ido wrote: |
| I'd like to see the scenes at immigration when people find out that VWP travellers still have to be fingerprinted and photographed. |
I don't see how they would mind, if most airports are like San Fran. They put their finger on an electronic scanner and a webcam type camera takes their photo. Takes like 5 seconds.
If I was Korean, I wouldn't mind that versus the hassle and expense of getting a visa the old way. |
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