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Liberals are clinically mad...says top psychiatrist

 
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Quack Addict



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 4:25 am    Post subject: Liberals are clinically mad...says top psychiatrist Reply with quote

WASHINGTON � Just when liberals thought it was safe to start identifying themselves as such, an acclaimed, veteran psychiatrist is making the case that the ideology motivating them is actually a mental disorder.

"Based on strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions, modern liberals relentlessly undermine the most important principles on which our freedoms were founded," says Dr. Lyle Rossiter, author of the new book, "The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness." "Like spoiled, angry children, they rebel against the normal responsibilities of adulthood and demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave."

While political activists on the other side of the spectrum have made similar observations, Rossiter boasts professional credentials and a life virtually free of activism and links to "the vast right-wing conspiracy."

For more than 35 years he has diagnosed and treated more than 1,500 patients as a board-certified clinical psychiatrist and examined more than 2,700 civil and criminal cases as a board-certified forensic psychiatrist. He received his medical and psychiatric training at the University of Chicago.

Rossiter says the kind of liberalism being displayed by both Barack Obama and his Democratic primary opponent Hillary Clinton can only be understood as a psychological disorder.

"A social scientist who understands human nature will not dismiss the vital roles of free choice, voluntary cooperation and moral integrity � as liberals do," he says. "A political leader who understands human nature will not ignore individual differences in talent, drive, personal appeal and work ethic, and then try to impose economic and social equality on the population � as liberals do. And a legislator who understands human nature will not create an environment of rules which over-regulates and over-taxes the nation's citizens, corrupts their character and reduces them to wards of the state � as liberals do."

Dr. Rossiter says the liberal agenda preys on weakness and feelings of inferiority in the population by:

creating and reinforcing perceptions of victimization;
satisfying infantile claims to entitlement, indulgence and compensation;

augmenting primitive feelings of envy;

rejecting the sovereignty of the individual, subordinating him to the will of the government.
"The roots of liberalism � and its associated madness � can be clearly identified by understanding how children develop from infancy to adulthood and how distorted development produces the irrational beliefs of the liberal mind," he says. "When the modern liberal mind whines about imaginary victims, rages against imaginary villains and seeks above all else to run the lives of persons competent to run their own lives, the neurosis of the liberal mind becomes painfully obvious."
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asylum seeker



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a quack alright.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^Really. I think that anyone who considers Obama and Hillary "liberals" are clinically mad.
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laogaiguk



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember Five Eagles finding 500 scientists that said that Noah's arc had been found and that the world was approx 6000 years old. I trust in science, but I don't trust in scientists.
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agentX



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see Bill O's moonlighting again. I guess the economy back home must be really bad if he has to fake being a psychologist.
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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The book I've linked to below contains a very interesting appendix about psychiatric history, including lists of many similar pronouncements by psychiatrists declaring this or that political ideology a symptom of mental illness.

http://tinyurl.com/5kvjua

Basically, almost every political ideology has been declared "insane" by some credentialed expert at one time or another.
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just reading something on this topic now: R. Keller's Colonial Madness: Psychiatry in French North Africa (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2007).

Psychiatrists sometimes mean well. But they do a lot of damage in the world. For one thing they enable people to wield "insanity" to literally confine and/or suppress diverse thinking and lifestyles. And at the end of the day, I do not think we can say for certain that psychiatry helps humanity more than it hurts it.
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laogaiguk



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
Just reading something on this topic now: R. Keller's Colonial Madness: Psychiatry in French North Africa (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2007).

Psychiatrists sometimes mean well. But they do a lot of damage in the world. For one thing they enable people to wield "insanity" to literally confine and/or suppress diverse thinking and lifestyles. And at the end of the day, I do not think we can say for certain that psychiatry helps humanity more than it hurts it.


I agree with this quite a bit. It's not that we should stop trying to refine it and make it better, just to realize it's still a baby (soft) science and we should not be changing society based on a few studies done with very few long term effect studies (which is what society basically does at the moment, especially in education).
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tomato



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I attended skeptic group meetings before I came to Korea.
One of the members delivered a presentation on "religion as a form of insanity."
I never could figure out what his argument was.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
Just reading something on this topic now: R. Keller's Colonial Madness: Psychiatry in French North Africa (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2007).

Psychiatrists sometimes mean well. But they do a lot of damage in the world. For one thing they enable people to wield "insanity" to literally confine and/or suppress diverse thinking and lifestyles. And at the end of the day, I do not think we can say for certain that psychiatry helps humanity more than it hurts it.

Psychiatry remains a combination of empirical science and hokum.

Moser and Kleinplatz have argued that entire sections of the DSM are internally inconsistent, or ideological, and should be removed.

It is still an art and an evolving science.
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ddeubel



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please tell me what a "liberal" is? Or for that matter, a "conservative"?

Useless, diahretic term that tries to squeeze a circle into a small square. Ideology is hocus pockus and only useful to those who'd like to bond human beings into mental slavery.

Not even worth commenting on....

There are only two sides to everything and those two sides are in each human heart.

DD
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MollyBloom



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michael Savage coined "Liberalism is a Mental Disorder" years ago....
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fiveeagles



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

laogaiguk wrote:
I remember Five Eagles finding 500 scientists that said that Noah's arc had been found and that the world was approx 6000 years old. I trust in science, but I don't trust in scientists.


Right! And I also said you were my best friend. What are you going to believe?

Where the in Hell's tarnation did I say that?


Oh right...I am arguing with a "clinically, rank, militant, psychotic zygote of a jellyfish" or in otherwords.....a liberal. haha.

I love it when evidence like this appears but then "the science" doesn't fit the mold.
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