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[Gopher]

Canada does not have the same African-American population America does either.

[Kuros]

CNN Late Edition Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger on Prop 8

[huffdaddy]

Prop 22 in 2000: Yes 4,618,673 61.4% No 2,909,370 38.6%
Prop 8 in 2008: Yes 5,769,939 52.3% No 5,266,794 47.7%

Change is happening.

[canuckistan]

As Olbermann pointed out there were still states in 1967 that had laws on their books where blacks could not marry whites--heterosexuals. The US still has a lot of growing up to do.

http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/20081111_olbermann_shames_prop_8_voters/?ln

[bacasper]

Meanwhile in another state...

Same-Sex Couples In Connecticut Tie The Knot, Legally

By DANIELA ALTIMARI | The Hartford Courant
November 13, 2008

With a few perfunctory strokes of the pen at 9:15 a.m. Wednesday, New Haven Superior Court Judge Jonathan E. Silbert brought same-sex marriage to Connecticut.

Less than 30 minutes later, at West Hartford town hall, state Rep. Beth Bye and her partner, Tracey Wilson, became the first legally married same-sex couple in the state. Although they had a "wedding" service at their church three years ago, their union is now legally valid, and that "took my breath away," said Bye, a Democrat from West Hartford.

In New Haven, Jennifer Vickery and Peg Oliveira pronounced their wedding vows in front of a bronze statue depicting the leader of the Amistad revolt. With their friends watching and their 3-month-old daughter, Willow, snuggling in a carriage nearby, they exchanged rings and pledged to share their lives "in good times and in hard."

The weddings came after a fervent, four-year legal battle. Eight same-sex couples had sued the state, contending that barring them from marriage was unconstitutional. Last month, the state's highest court agreed. Wednesday's brief hearing in Silbert's courtroom was a necessary formality before gay couples could receive marriage licenses

Connecticut has now joined the small circle of places where gay men and lesbians can legally wed. The Netherlands, Belgium, South Africa, Spain and Canada all recognize same-sex marriage. In the U.S., Massachusetts is the only other state where same-sex marriage is legal. California's highest court overturned a state law banning the practice earlier this year, but that action was undone last week by passage of a ballot measure.

"Today Connecticut sends a message of hope and promise to lesbian and gay people throughout the country who want to be treated as equal citizens by their government," said Bennett Klein, an attorney with the Boston-based Gay and Lesbian Advocates and Defenders, which litigated the case. "We ... think about the heartbreaking vote in California, knowing that a justice movement is not won or lost by one case or one vote."

For Stephen Davis and Jeffrey Busch of Wilton, Wednesday was bittersweet. As one of the eight plaintiff couples, Davis and Busch said they were thrilled to be able to legally formalize their 19-year relationship. But they were also mourning the loss of marriage rights in California and wondering how last week's vote will affect Davis' sister and her spouse, who were wed in San Francisco during the 4 1/2 -month window when same-sex nuptials were legal in that state.

"Our tears of joy are really diminished," Busch said. "As we're picking out our wedding rings, [they] are staring at their marriage licenses trying to figure out what it all means."

After leaving the court, Davis and Busch and a crowd of gay rights supporters gathered on the steps of New Haven City Hall. The plaintiff couples and Klein held a brief press conference surrounded by bobbing white balloons and sprays of long-stemmed roses.

Reporters and television crews from throughout the region gathered to cover the story, but opening day of same-sex marriage in this state drew far less media attention than nuptials in Massachusetts when that state became the first to legalize them in 2004.

In fact, despite all the smiles, hugs and tears of happiness, the mood was fairly low-key, especially when compared with the battles over gay marriage that have erupted in much of the nation. Unlike California, Connecticut does not have a ballot-measure mechanism that might bar same-sex marriage, though opponents have vowed not to give up their fight. On Wednesday, however, those opponents were nowhere to be seen.

more at link

[TexasPete]

nevermind...

[mises]

[canuckistan]

[mises]

While I am grateful for Canadian mainstream politics being largely void of religious nutters (immigration will reverse this, as it has in the UK, Holland and elsewhere) 1999 to 2008 is a mere 9 years. A blink of the eye in Western history. The US will eventually extend these benefits, of course. And Canadians didn't vote on it remember. This is no reason for Canadians to be smug. Not this issue.

And let's be totally honest about the time line:

[canuckistan]

[mises]

12 give same sex union rights. I call that 'many', yes. Over time, more will. I assume at some point a branch of the Fed will step in and get the ball rolling country wide.

[canuckistan]

[Gopher]

[canuckistan]

Don't support them or their businesses. Gotta know who they are!
Protest!
Excellent!

It's just like that lady who refused to sit at the back of the bus and be treated like a 2nd class citizen. Or the kids who went to white schools anyways.
Or the blacks who boycotted white businesses.

Awesome!