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Anyone Want to be a recruiter? Korean Konnection for Sale
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skitzo



Joined: 23 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 5:53 pm    Post subject: Anyone Want to be a recruiter? Korean Konnection for Sale Reply with quote

Hey all,

I was recruiting in Korea for quite some time and now I'm too busy (kids). I am selling my website. It is not registered at this time but it is hosted and it's live and working. It comes complete with php scripts and mySQL database and a protected admin panel.

It has:

- a pretty sharp flash header
- a "Fill in the blank" form application page. The prospective teacher can also attach a resume and a picture
- Newsletter section (a list will appear in the admin section for your e-mail client)
- a Post Job section where ONLY you the administrator can post jobs (a fill the blank form). That way, others are not posting bogus jobs or schools who should be on the "BlackList" - there is also an admin section for this to delete filled jobs.
- I have just added some more buttons (culture, Gallery, Info etc. etc.) which have nothing linked to them; just some text Lorem ipsum dolor - you can use them or delete them.

The whole thing is password protected and ready to go.

I have a yearly hosting package which costs around $14.50 a year (yes it's REALLY cheap and really good) so, you can simply take it over or I can get you the same rate with my host under your own name.

Here's the URL

http://thompson.kingpinhosting.com/

If you have this type of site quoted out by a developer and it will run over $2000. I'm looking for $850 US - OBO.

e-mail me at: [email protected]


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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...3,2,1 delete.
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kprrok



Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC

PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Such a great website with only one job posted for all of 2008. Plus your links don't work very well. Oh well, maybe some sucker will take it off your hands.
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skitzo



Joined: 23 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I removed all the postings because, as I said, I'm not running it now. I left one up just to show what it looks like.

You're having problem clicking the links? - try the LEFT mouse button (genius)
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Korussian



Joined: 15 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The links work fine for me.

Perhaps this kind of posting doesn't belong in the job-related discussion forum, however.

Nevertheless, I think it's a well-designed website.
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kprrok



Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC

PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

skitzo wrote:
You're having problem clicking the links? - try the LEFT mouse button (genius)


I have to use the LEFT mouse button? Really? I didn't know that! that would explain why I've never been able to do anything on the internet. I thought the left button was just for comfort. I didn't realise it DID something!

Great attitude you've got there. You must be a hit on the social scene.
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skitzo



Joined: 23 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Korussian!


kprrok,
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Great attitude you've got there. You must be a hit on the social scene.


Hmmm...my attitude? Without any provocation you initialized your public post by stating: "Oh well, maybe some sucker will take it off your hands." ?!?!? AND you slagged my site with an untruth about it's functionality...

grow up.
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kprrok



Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC

PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

skitzo wrote:
AND you slagged my site with an untruth about it's functionality...


It's not an untruth if it was true when I posted it. I will admit that I just clicked on the site again and all of the links were working. When I first tried, I kept getting the same error message (on your site only, so it wasn't my connection giving the problem).
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hagwonnewbie



Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Location: Asia

PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't imagine that the business of recruiting is looking good now. Big academies are buying up small ones, and they seem to recruit for themselves. Salaries are way down with the low won. More and more recruiters are on the scene increasing competition.

I wouldn't blame someone for getting out of the business.
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jadarite



Joined: 01 Sep 2007
Location: Andong, Yeongyang, Seoul, now Pyeongtaek

PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is like selling a car without the engine. The only reason why you would want to buy a recruiting business is to get existing leads and an established business relationship with schools that hired teachers through the site.

What you would be buying is not the site (the car), but the customer base (the engine) which is lacking in the offer.

From the example 1 job offer, it shows 15 days vacation time for a middle school. Not a good offer in my opinion.

I can't imagine anyone paying more than $10-$20 to get the domain and maybe $50 for server fees. This site is just a wrapper for what should be inside, which is not being revealed.

1) How many schools do you have established with this offer?
2) Do they exclusively go through you?
3) How much do they pay you for recruiting services?
4) How many teachers have contacted you recently?
5) Since you have taken down most of the site, teachers have probably moved on to another service. Do you realize how stupid this was? You should be transferring the ownership to someone while still doing business. The job offers should still be listed. Now that you have taken them down, the value of the business has gone down. Teachers won't revisit the site if they know it's not in operation.

Anyone want to try to make lemonade out of this lemon?


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mountainous



Joined: 04 Sep 2007
Location: Los Angeles

PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Contract Assistance: We provide detailed information on contract terms and conditions so that you are confident with what you are signing. We also make sure that you are getting everything that you deserve from your employer and that your contract is fair and in accordance with Korean law...

The employer may consider the contract a simple working agreement, infinitely flexible and subject to change (usually after the foreign teacher has arrived in Korea). The real contract is not a written one, but an unwritten, oral agreement. Most Koreans do not view deviations from a contract as a "breach," and few would consider taking an employer to court over a contract dispute. You should bear these factors in mind when signing a contract."


In other words, the "Contract Assistance" is not worth much...lol Laughing
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victorology



Joined: 10 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jadarite wrote:
This is like selling a car without the engine. The only reason why you would want to buy a recruiting business is to get existing leads and an established business relationship with schools that hired teachers through the site.

What you would be buying is not the site (the car), but the customer base (the engine) which is lacking in the offer.

From the example 1 job offer, it shows 15 days vacation time for a middle school. Not a good offer in my opinion.

I can't imagine anyone paying more than $10-$20 to get the domain and maybe $50 bucks for server fees. This site is just a wrapper for what should be inside, which is not being revealed.

1) How many schools do you have established with this offer?
2) Do they exclusively go through you?
3) How much do they pay you for recruiting services?
4) How many teachers have contacted you recently?
5) Since you have taken down most of the site, teachers have probably moved on to another service. Do you realize how stupid this was? You should be transferring the ownership to someone while still doing business. The job offers should still be listed. Now that you have taken them down, the value of the business has gone down. Teachers won't revisit the site if they know it's not in operation.

Anyone want to try to make lemonade out of this lemon?


I have to agree with this.

From the looks of it, only the Web site is being put up for sale but no business contacts?

What is the domain name this was hosted on before?
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Hamlet



Joined: 18 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
This is like selling a car without the engine. The only reason why you would want to buy a recruiting business is to get existing leads and an established business relationship with schools that hired teachers through the site.

What you would be buying is not the site (the car), but the customer base (the engine) which is lacking in the offer.

From the example 1 job offer, it shows 15 days vacation time for a middle school. Not a good offer in my opinion.

I can't imagine anyone paying more than $10-$20 to get the domain and maybe $50 for server fees. This site is just a wrapper for what should be inside, which is not being revealed.

1) How many schools do you have established with this offer?
2) Do they exclusively go through you?
3) How much do they pay you for recruiting services?
4) How many teachers have contacted you recently?
5) Since you have taken down most of the site, teachers have probably moved on to another service. Do you realize how stupid this was? You should be transferring the ownership to someone while still doing business. The job offers should still be listed. Now that you have taken them down, the value of the business has gone down. Teachers won't revisit the site if they know it's not in operation.

Anyone want to try to make lemonade out of this lemon?



A car that had an engine would not be selling for $850 now would it? The OP clearly stated that he was valuing the site based on what a developer would charge to make a new one--not on existing connections or clients or any sort of revenue.

A functioning business, like a car with an engine, would have much greater value. He probably didn't bother to mention that because he figured any half wit could pretty much figure it out for themselves!!! Good of you to point it out, though...just in case!! Idea
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skitzo



Joined: 23 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Hamlet.


Jadirite, If I were to sell you a car I would not teach you how to drive it, show you how to read a map, nor would I give you a lesson on how to break down an engine.

When you close a business, you close a business. I just placed my last two teachers this month - and I am not going to advertise a job or a school when I am not about to fairly represent the clients. That would be irresponsible. Just like I wouldn't sell a car without a warantee - and that, Jadirite, is not being stupid; it's being responsible.

Like I said in the initial post - I AM SELLING THE WEBSITE. I'm not providing a contact list because (as everyone knows) dealing with hagwans and universities is a personal matter. Koreans, like the Japanese, like to deal very one-on-one and develop personal relationships in business. Introductions must be made, drinks need to be pounded - you all know the deal. I can't do that for anyone now that I am living in Ontario.

If you read the preamble on the first page of the site, I ONLY dealt with qualified teachers.... people who had their teachers college papers; many of whom are in the classroom right now and are looking for a change. I am a senior high school teacher and our intranet system has a buy/sell/job section with over 15,000 qualified teachers on it BUT whomever wants the site will not have this access to this and will change this mission statement. Your clientele will be completely different from mine.

The site was fashioned after the sites on monstertemplate.com. You can buy a skeleton site cheap from M.T; but in order to have them change the copy, logo, make the mail script work etc. etc. it will run you about $2000. I'm asking less than half that and mine is password protected, utilizes three separate MySQL databases for online storage, and php scripting for calling and writing data.

Guys, I'm only selling a site for half the price of a regular site - that's all. If anyone wants to become a recruiter, this can help you with the online side of your business.
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jadarite



Joined: 01 Sep 2007
Location: Andong, Yeongyang, Seoul, now Pyeongtaek

PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The website itself is not worth more than 100 dollars. When you asked for 800 and stated some ridiculous figure of 2,000 dollars, I tried to think of ways it would equal that.

If you are only paying 14.50, then you aren't getting much traffic.

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Koreans, like the Japanese, like to deal very one-on-one and develop personal relationships in business.


Hate to burst your bubble, http://www.sse-franchise.com/forsale.shtml
I worked closely with the owner of this franchise before he sold it, http://www.sse-franchise.com/listings/otsu_shiga.shtml

He specifically hired me to work with him AFTER he decided to sell it and until he got it sold. He didn't want to lose customers, nor did the guy who bought it. How many customers are you getting, now that you have closed shop?

But go on, I am enjoying your posts. What lame claims will you promise us next time?
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