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[Adventurer]

I just wanted to see if anyone out there meditates. I like chanting and mantra meditation. I am not so fond of Zen meditation, but I definitely see the merits of Zen meditation. Also, what do you think of the idea of having the absense of thought and simply to be connected to your being.

[Koveras]

I think there's something to it. Rationality is a fancy word for 'running in circles'.

[Justin Hale]

[greedy_bones]

While I'm an Atheist, I'm down with the meditation. Haven't done too much of it myself, but can appreciate some of its merits.

I'd have to agree with the Sam Harris philosophy that meditation can bring a better understanding of your own life and knowledge you have prior to the experience, there isn't an ability to gain knowledge of things outside of your current understanding of the world/universe.

One type of experience I've had a few times close to meditation is being in a very crowded and noisy room. I find that hearing so many conversations at once in a way blocks internal dialogue and helps me focus on exactly what I'm contemplating. For example, I have to sit in the kids room at lunch watching the kindergarteners during their recess. There are so many kids screaming in korean and english, so I can just sit and try to focus on the chaos. It's pretty fun.

[D.D.]

Chanting is good as it can open the heart.
Mantra is not meditation it is hypnosis.
Being in the present with no thought is very advanced- good on you if you can do that. Now try to open even more- let sounds and smells get even louder and smellier.
See if you can stay open in crowds and with people you trust.

[Adventurer]

[D.D.]

[EzeWong]

Oh that's cool adventuerer, didn't know you liked meditaiton :>.
Actually did so myself last night.

I usually use a crossed leg lotus position with hands in murda (zen style I believe). I prefer clearing the mind and focusing on breathe style.

It's strange that there are so many opposite styles of meditation... conciously breathe, observe breathing, focus on objects, don't focus your mind. etc...

I've tried many different styles of meditating but I find they all work in some way or another. Clearing the mind helps me feel refreshed and focusing helps me keep a solid mind.

I wish I could do it more often, but I'm just so impatient I fall asleep after 10 minutes.

I've had about 2 very strange "satori" experiences with meditating and it was awsome. A kind of Euphoria that comes with feeling oneness with the earth.

Anyone else ever have a "Satori" (Turning point) with meditation?

[Adventurer]

[D.D.]

Meditation is getting past the mind, not changing it. It's learning to use the frontal lobes of the brain rather than being one sided mid-brained dominant.

The part of the mind that thinks it is you is usually the left mid-brain. Many techniques are used to get the mid-brain to relax so the experience of upper brain can happen.

Drugs also do this but then the mid-brain comes back stronger.

The mid-brain has trouble living in the present moment so bring the attention to the present tends to bring the upper lobes into action.

Most people can't sit quiet enough for zen style techniques. Their stuff often comes up and they don't know how to process it.

[maingman]

PMR

[D.D.]

[Adventurer]

[Koveras]

[IncognitoHFX]

I discovered that in the land of Zen, they put corn on your pizza. If you care, then you aren't ready.