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�Vulnerable Sector Screening" Candian English Teachers
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espoir



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Incheon, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OculisOrbis wrote:
Just want to add that ANY Canadian can obtain their check from Winnipeg Police Service. You DO NOT have to be from Winnipeg to get it. As long as you Canadian, they will issue the check with the VSS.


That is good to know. Will definately keep that bookmarked for future refference Smile
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farrepatt



Joined: 27 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can confirm that the Winnipeg Police route works for getting a VSS.

I had to renew my visa in September and when I went (I think September 5th right after the changes were made) they told me they couldn't process my visa because I didn't have the VSS. They stamped my application and wrote something on it and told me I had a month to get the VSS.

After freaking out a bit, I did some research on Dave's and saw that I could get it from the Winnipeg Police and so I scanned in my stuff and emailed it to my parents in Toronto who called and confirmed that they could send scanned copies. So they sent it in that same day and they got the VSS back about three weeks later and sent it express to me. It arrived just in time. I had no problems at the Embassy or immigration even though it said Winnipeg Police at the top and my address is listed as Toronto in my passport.

This is the link I used to get mine:

http://www.winnipeg.ca/police/BPR/info_request.stm#crim_record_search
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korussian wrote:
To avoid the hassle of going back to my home city, I did the standard RCMP CRC, and it was rejected by the Korean consulate.

The people in the Toronto consulate are pricks about it, too. I got my RCMP check (not VSS, just regular CBC) and it was accepted no problem by Korean Immigration. Immigration accepted the regular RCMP CBC twice without hassle. It's the consulate that is imposing this VSS requirement.
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Troll_Bait



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)

PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:02 am    Post subject: Re: �Vulnerable Sector Screening" Candian English Teach Reply with quote

Ekaia wrote:
Anyone here ever had to submit this document?

http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2897140

"An English teacher from Toronto was baffled after he learned a couple of months ago from the Korean immigration office that he had to obtain a document he had never heard of from his home country to renew his visa.

The document is called �Vulnerable Sector Screening,� and without it, the teacher was stuck."

South Korea

Estimated Population: 49,044,790

Number of Canadians there legally: 9,549

----------------------------------------------------

Canada

Estimated Population: 33,426,000

Number of South Koreans there illegally: at least 100,000

http://www.asianpacificpost.com/portal2/402881910674ebab010674f4dc931503.do.html
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polonius



Joined: 05 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Young FRANKenstein wrote:
Korussian wrote:
To avoid the hassle of going back to my home city, I did the standard RCMP CRC, and it was rejected by the Korean consulate.

The people in the Toronto consulate are pricks about it, too. I got my RCMP check (not VSS, just regular CBC) and it was accepted no problem by Korean Immigration. Immigration accepted the regular RCMP CBC twice without hassle. It's the consulate that is imposing this VSS requirement.


I second the notion that the Toronto consulate are ditch pigs. I have been in so many arguments with a wench there. I am certain that it was this woman's brainchild to implement the VSS for Canadians. My guess is that she was at a dinner party with a teacher from Canada, and told her what the protocol was to teach in Canada. So, wench thinks this is a good idea, and makes it mandatory. When I spoke to the Head man in charge at the MOJ (this was a year ago) he had no idea what the VSS was. I explained to him that it was very difficult for some people to get this document, as some police departments won't release the information. i.e. Toronto.

When I asked the wench how I was to get my VSS, she said that I should get it when I come home, as it is "Necessary for all E2 holders to come home every year. It is not possible to extend a visa in Korea." She didn't know her arse from her head. She didn't believe that I had extended my visa 5 times in Korea.

Anyhoo, I hate the Toronto consulate. BTW, I thought I read somewhere that the Canadian Embassy is in talks with MOJ about this VSS to try and abolish it, as it goes against Canada's Privacy Act.
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Temporary



Joined: 13 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny I called the Vancouver consulate they said they didn't need VSS infact it states that on their damned website. Call the wench on it I guarantee you thatt she will be trying to save face. Google the Korean consulate general in Canada.

Edit..

Oh it looks like they changed it. Now they reqquire a VSS..

I was lucky and did mine before the VSS bullshlt came into effect.
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Troll_Bait



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)

PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some interesting remarks from the Canadian Embassy on the controversial VSS required for E-2s.

Quote:
The Embassy is aware of the problem and has been working with the MoJ to resolve the situation.

The Korean authorities are still requiring the submission of a VS check as a condition of E-2 visa issuance.

As per the Canadian Criminal Records Act, approved use of a VS check is very limited and restricted.

VS checks are not approved for use by foreign authorities. Korean authorities have been made aware of this fact.

Canada police authorities may not legally conduct a VS check for the purposes of teaching English in Korea.

The Korean MoJ has recently granted Canadian citizens a three month grace period to obtain their VS check.

Canadian citizens may lodge complaints to the MoJ at:

Border Control Team
Korean Immigration Service
Ministry of Justice
Government Complex Gwacheon
427-705, Republic of Korea
Fax: 82-2-500-9127

Canadian citizens may lodge complaints to their elected Member of National Assembly. You may find your elected Member of National Assembly at:

http://korea.na.go.kr/index.jsp

The Embassy continues to work towards a resolution of this problem

Hope it proves helpful.
Thank you.

Consular Services / Services Consulaires
Embassy of Canada, Seoul / Ambassade du Canada, S�oul
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Seoul'n'Corea



Joined: 06 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:34 am    Post subject: Re: �Vulnerable Sector Screening" Candian English Teach Reply with quote

Troll_Bait wrote:
Ekaia wrote:
Anyone here ever had to submit this document?

http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2897140

"An English teacher from Toronto was baffled after he learned a couple of months ago from the Korean immigration office that he had to obtain a document he had never heard of from his home country to renew his visa.

The document is called �Vulnerable Sector Screening,� and without it, the teacher was stuck."

South Korea

Estimated Population: 49,044,790

Number of Canadians there legally: 9,549

----------------------------------------------------

Canada

Estimated Population: 33,426,000

Number of South Koreans there illegally: at least 100,000

http://www.asianpacificpost.com/portal2/402881910674ebab010674f4dc931503.do.html


Joongang Ilbo is a very anti-immigrant newspaper.
They have been caught doing undercover reporting into Universities and Hagwons and harassing people.

Good point.. how many Korean nations go to Thailand, Cambodia and Vietnam for "business trips".

haha
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earthbound14



Joined: 23 Jan 2007
Location: seoul

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Troll_Bait wrote:
Some interesting remarks from the Canadian Embassy on the controversial VSS required for E-2s.

Quote:
The Embassy is aware of the problem and has been working with the MoJ to resolve the situation.

The Korean authorities are still requiring the submission of a VS check as a condition of E-2 visa issuance.

As per the Canadian Criminal Records Act, approved use of a VS check is very limited and restricted.

VS checks are not approved for use by foreign authorities. Korean authorities have been made aware of this fact.

Canada police authorities may not legally conduct a VS check for the purposes of teaching English in Korea.

The Korean MoJ has recently granted Canadian citizens a three month grace period to obtain their VS check.

Canadian citizens may lodge complaints to the MoJ at:

Border Control Team
Korean Immigration Service
Ministry of Justice
Government Complex Gwacheon
427-705, Republic of Korea
Fax: 82-2-500-9127

Canadian citizens may lodge complaints to their elected Member of National Assembly. You may find your elected Member of National Assembly at:

http://korea.na.go.kr/index.jsp

The Embassy continues to work towards a resolution of this problem

Hope it proves helpful.
Thank you.

Consular Services / Services Consulaires
Embassy of Canada, Seoul / Ambassade du Canada, S�oul


Great post!

Post it again in its own thread urging Canadians to complain. More people will read it if you include this in the thread title and be more likely to take the time to post a message....
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