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R. S. Refugee
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Location: Shangra La, ROK
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Paji eh Wong
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| Its a balloon. |
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sojourner1
Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
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You mean a bubble in the economy?
Well, I bet it'll be actually quite easy getting 4000 more Americans as long as they let them know in college career services offices. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Why do the call someone specialising in teaching conversation to children a 'lecture [sic]'? |
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sarbonn
Joined: 14 Oct 2008
Location: Michigan
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| Why do the call someone specialising in teaching conversation to children a 'lecture [sic]'? |
I'm thinking that their rationalization is that they want to pay them less than regular instructors. The whole article smells that way to me, that this is a desire to get cheaper labor but at the same time to have unrealistic beliefs that these people are going to materialize, unless they grab them from their own population, which opens it up to a lot of pay off corruption as people unqualified end up with the jobs.
It's a lot like the US does at universities. They'll call someone a lecturer if that person is not qualified to be a professor and then have them do pretty close to the same workload (minus a few professorial functions like sit on committees and chair Ph.D. and thesis committees) but pay them a fraction of what a professor gets. I have a friend of mine in the California state university system who only has a MA and he is only allowed to be a lecturer, yet he does everything the professors do. He used to be excused from committees, but then they asked him to "participate" because they said it would "help" him with his education as an eventual professor. |
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xCustomx
Joined: 06 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Did anyone else notice that if you're hired, you will be expected to sign a 4 year contract? Who would be crazy enough to do that? |
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sarbonn
Joined: 14 Oct 2008
Location: Michigan
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, I saw that (4 year contract) and immediately thought the same thing. That's really asking a lot, if it's from a foreigner. If it's a Korean, I can't imagine the problem with longer term job security. |
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The_Source
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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The ministry will call them "lecturers" to distinguish them from existing teachers who have civil servant and permanent job status. The recruited lecturers will be working on a contract basis and not be given civil servant status.
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working conditions for the teachers should not be the same as those of government employed teachers due to opposition from current teachers.
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the ministry could limit the pool of candidates to those who hold teaching licenses
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Kim Young-ik, a high school teacher, asserted it was dangerous to open the positions to anyone simply because they can speak English.
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They are expected to be hired based on four-year contracts.
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Let me get this straight: This new breed of English "lecturers" will have to pass higher hurdles to get hired (such as a teaching license), will have fewer benefits (such as no civil servant status), and will be locked into 4-year contracts? |
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Sounds like they want Koreans. The number of Koreans that speak English well but don't teach it in public schools is quite high. |
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AussieGav
Joined: 02 Sep 2007
Location: Uijeongbu
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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| marlow wrote: |
| Sounds like they want Koreans. The number of Koreans that speak English well but don't teach it in public schools is quite high. |
Yeah that's what I thought too. I have met a large number of Koreans not working in the public school system (although some teach elsewhere) whose English level is far higher than most "civil servants". |
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cheeseface
Joined: 13 Jan 2008
Location: Ssyangnyeon Shi
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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I read this in the Korean Herald, they definatly want Korean teachers.
The Korean teachers union is even angry that they will give preference to Korean's without a real teaching certificate.
No mention of any FT's. |
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Bigfeet
Joined: 29 May 2008
Location: Grrrrr.....
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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This is for Korean English teachers, not foreigners. Competition for regular public school positions have been fierce due to low turnover and worsening economy so they may be able to find that many teachers, eventually. But this may still be a plus for us. They may need better English speaking skills and look for foreigners to teach them.  |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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That article is about hiring Korean citizens who can actually speak English to teach English in Public schools without the need for them to have a teaching certificate.
It is NOT about foreign teachers. |
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Whistleblower
Joined: 03 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:07 am Post subject: |
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| It might be a good opportunity for Thai English teachers. |
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rooster_2006
Joined: 14 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:29 am Post subject: |
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First of all, this post is not directed at the one before me, but at all the people who thought this article pertained to foreigners.
This is unbelievable, you guys are such MORONS. You read this article and actually thought they were talking about foreign teachers. NO!!! THEY WEREN'T! Stop being so paranoid.
This article is about ceasing the practice of giving KOREANS full teacher benefits just because they can speak good English. It has NOTHING to do with foreigners (unless you're a gyopo, maybe). |
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