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Sooke
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 Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:51 pm Post subject: This makes me proud to be Canadian |
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Obese have right to 2 airline seats: Canada court
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OTTAWA (Reuters) - Obese people have the right to two seats for the price of one on flights within Canada, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled on Thursday.
The high court declined to hear an appeal by Canadian airlines of a decision by the Canadian Transportation Agency that people who are "functionally disabled by obesity" deserve to have two seats for one fare.
The airlines had lost an appeal at the Federal Court of Appeal in May and had sought to launch a fresh appeal at the Supreme Court. The court's decision not to hear a new appeal means the one-person-one-fare policy stands.
The appeal had been launched by Air Canada, Air Canada Jazz and WestJet. |
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/081120/canada/canada_us_obesity_1
another take:
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2008/11/20/209496.aspx |
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Kimbop
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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| As long as I'm not seated next to one of those freaks. |
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Kuros
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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| I must find and read the Fed Ct of Appeals case. |
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bacasper
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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Why not just sell seats instead of fares?
Anyway, I'm not obese, but I am tall and never have enough legroom. I want a special seat, too.
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Gopher
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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Bacasper: the way things look, I would imagine that Canadian authorities might call that "a discriminatory practice" and overrule it.
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Canadian authorities have concluded that "obesity" represents "a disability?"
Does anyone here take exception to that analysis and claim? Why is Canada attacking free will and personal accountability so fiercely?
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mises
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Canadians misuse the word "right" like Koreans misuse the word "traditional". We are bloody obnoxious, and it is a top-down phenomenon. |
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riverboy
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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Why don't they simply sell seats by weight? I would be charged a few bucks at around 90 kg, but my wife and kids would pay considerably less.
This really sickens me. |
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bacasper
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| Bacasper: the way things look, I would imagine that Canadian authorities might call that "a discriminatory practice" and overrule it. |
You're probably right about that. But what about charging by the pound? Since the cost of flying varies with the weight, it would be reasonable, and by charging the same rate to everybody, they couldn't complain about discrimination.
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Canadian authorities have concluded that "obesity" represents "a disability?"
Does anyone here take exception to that analysis and claim? Why is Canada attacking free will and personal accountability so fiercely? |
Yes. They should at least require letter from a endocrinologist or bariatric specialist.
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Are Canadians as fat as Americans? |
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sojourner1
Joined: 17 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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Seems to be that if you take 2 seats and weigh more, then you require more space and fuel to go. This means if you can afford to over eat, then you can afford to pay 2 airfares should you be that fat unless it's a special medical flight.
Rather than buying 2 seats, large obese people tend to go for business class seats. |
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canuckistan
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Loading an aircraft goes by weight, baggage goes by weight, extra baggage should go by weight. |
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Manner of Speaking
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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You know what's going to happen next.
A lot of people are going to claim to "be obese" so that they can get to sit in two seats for the price of one. Who gets to define what "functionally obese" is or is not?
And as a result, the airlines will simply respond by exercising their right to refuse service to a customer. They just won't bother selling tickets to "obese" passengers. More power to them.
Lawyers.
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Manner of Speaking
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Many people in Canada make a such a crusade out of their political correctness that they are able to detect the event horizon of their own stupidity. |
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bacasper
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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Once when flying first class, this woman came into sit next to me who was so big she had to remove the armrest! In first class! You know how big those seats are.
Of course, she came in carrying her MacDonald's bag. She then remarked how hard it was to remove the armrest, that she had to give it a heavy tug. Funny, because that is just what she reminded me of! |
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Gopher
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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| sojourner1 wrote: |
| This means if you can afford to overeat, then you can afford to pay 2 airfares should you be that fat... |
But Canadian authorities are not reasonining like this. They have deemed obsesity "a disability" as in our "Americans with Disabilities Act." And they have included obese people with wheelchairbound people, etc. Same thing to them. Disabled people require special protections for inclusion in society, etc.
I must say, I remain disatissfied with this precedent and I hope it does not spread southward... |
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canuckistan
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| sojourner1 wrote: |
| This means if you can afford to overeat, then you can afford to pay 2 airfares should you be that fat... |
But Canadian authorities are not reasonining like this. They have deemed obsesity "a disability" as in our "Americans with Disabilities Act." And they have included obese people with wheelchairbound people, etc. Same thing to them. Disabled people require special protections for inclusion in society, etc.
I must say, I remain disatissfied with this precedent and I hope it does not spread southward... |
Are you kidding? The US is the poster boy for people not taking responsibility for their actions and then finding someone to sue for it as well!
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American obesity is a prime example of this lack of personal responsibility. In 2005, the Personal Responsibility in Food Consumption Act was passed by the House but not by the Senate. This bill would have been a step in the right direction, as it would have barred people from filing lawsuits against the fast food industry for reasons related to obesity or the health complications that go along with it.
Sen. Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., told the San Francisco Chronicle, "The notion that a food seller should be held responsible for an individual's food consumption is absurd." Unfortunately, not everyone feels this way.
It has gotten to the point that if fast food restaurants don't chase away their customers, then customers can sue. Never mind that people's unwillingness to exercise plays a major role or the fact that they know fast food is fattening before they eat it. No one is forcing anyone to eat or do anything that would cause obesity. It's your choice and your responsibility to take care of your body and no one else's.
Yet people such as Rep. Eleanor Holmes Norton, D-Washington, D.C., stated in the Washington Post, "We're talking about a public health problem for which our government has not taken responsibility." And why should they? Uncle Sam is not forcing anyone to eat at McDonald's every day. |
Looks like the stupidity has spread northwards. |
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