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sojourner1

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:03 am Post subject: Emart sucks. A rant why E mart sucks. |
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You might ask: Why don't you just shop Homeplus or Costco? Well, there's no locations within 5 hours of my location however I do have 2 Emarts 2 to 2.5 hours of me. No other stores out here don't even carry as much as limited Emart and those other small stores all carry the same craptastic severely limited selection.
Prices are rising while domestic products take up more floor space than before. Today, I noticed fewer import beers and more domestic MAX beers taking the space once occupied by import beers. The floor was also loaded with a larger mountain of plastic bottle craptastic beer to the point of there not being enough room for people in the drink department. They have a good hefeweizen, but only 5 bottles were to be had. There's no other hard liquor than over priced whisky, except the most craptastic cheap London Gin. No rum, no Crown, no decent quality gin and vodka. Also no good Italian and French red merlot wine; it's all cheap South American. Alcohol only demonstrates one aspect of the many issues with supply and selection so common in such a place as Korea.
Why such little supply with limited selection? Are they retarded when it comes to doing business? Don't consumers clamor for more with being forced to be deal with limited high priced shopping options as this? With such huge numbers in the customer base, why no super large stores with awesome selection like we have in America with the Wal*Mart supercenter concept? Why no small specialty stores such as liquor stores that deal in offering more selections that large stores don't carry? I'm also talking about other kinds of smaller pricey specialty stores too that might specialize in import products such as Global Foods. I still don't get Korea when it comes to shopping, dining, and what's to be had for fun other than their love of mountain hiking. It's truly a sellers market for sure and that's the way domestic producers want to keep it. Customers are only cash cows; not valued and served for what they want and wish for. Korea's either crazy or simply ignorant if they want and enjoy things the way they currently are in the shopping arena.
No Christmas cards to be had. They did have a tiny Christmas department the size of a bed with tiny Christmas trees and light sets. Oddly, one of the 3 small trees on display was decorated with gold plastic marijuana leafs.
There was no bake ware available such as pizza pans and cookie sheets.
There's too many sales people standing around in the way doing nothing with space to move about being at a premium.
I did get assistance before I personally searched myself to confirm the sales lady telling me there are no Christmas cards and bakeware. She was right.
It really was a disappointing way to spend 30,000 won on RT transportation and 8 hours of my Saturday so I'm going to just live on Gmarket and my local small grocer from now on. I only wish you could buy import beer and ham off the internet, but you can't to my knowledge. I was happy they had those tiny little hams for 3,600 won that are just like real large sized American hams since they were out last time I went.
I got 5 bottles of hefewiezen and 4 cans of a 8.9% hefewiezen beer, 4 slabs of baby back pork ribs along with 4 extra small hams. I searched high and low for beans to no avail. This really is my best attempt at a beer and ham run. OK, I need to go to Seoul!!! Pretty sorry shopping trip, but I'm enjoying those 4 wonderful high quality bottles of beer tonight at a premium cost.
This is my experience of the Gangneung Emart and it's much better than Taebaeks tiny rinky dink one floor Emart with an even more limited selection. |
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ciccone_youth

Joined: 03 Mar 2008 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:15 am Post subject: |
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I've been quite disappointed with E Mart and Homeplus lately as well- the prices went up significantly, and at Homeplus I was having a hard time finding all the Tesco products they used to offer. They used to have 3-4 kinds of Tesco cereal, and I cannot find them anymore. |
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crescent

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Location: yes.
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:17 am Post subject: |
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Not to muzzle your rant, but... if Koreans actually wanted foreign products, they would be stocked more. In times of economic uncertainty, national products take even more shelf space, and low selling items lose their shelf space. Imports cost much more now.
Emart is practically the most profitable retailer in the country.
They suck by OUR standards, sure.. but since when has the local economy been quality driven? |
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southern boy
Joined: 29 Sep 2007
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:28 am Post subject: Re: Emart sucks. A rant why E mart sucks. |
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sojourner1 wrote: |
You might ask: Why don't you just shop Homeplus or Costco? Well, there's no locations within 5 hours of my location however I do have 2 Emarts 2 to 2.5 hours of me. No other stores out here don't even carry as much as limited Emart and those other small stores all carry the same craptastic severely limited selection.
Prices are rising while domestic products take up more floor space than before. Today, I noticed fewer import beers and more domestic MAX beers taking the space once occupied by import beers. The floor was also loaded with a larger mountain of plastic bottle craptastic beer to the point of there not being enough room for people in the drink department. They have a good hefeweizen, but only 5 bottles were to be had. There's no other hard liquor than over priced whisky, except the most craptastic cheap London Gin. No rum, no Crown, no decent quality gin and vodka. Also no good Italian and French red merlot wine; it's all cheap South American. Alcohol only demonstrates one aspect of the many issues with supply and selection so common in such a place as Korea.
Why such little supply with limited selection? Are they retarded when it comes to doing business? Don't consumers clamor for more with being forced to be deal with limited high priced shopping options as this? With such huge numbers in the customer base, why no super large stores with awesome selection like we have in America with the Wal*Mart supercenter concept? Why no small specialty stores such as liquor stores that deal in offering more selections that large stores don't carry? I'm also talking about other kinds of smaller pricey specialty stores too that might specialize in import products such as Global Foods. I still don't get Korea when it comes to shopping, dining, and what's to be had for fun other than their love of mountain hiking. It's truly a sellers market for sure and that's the way domestic producers want to keep it. Customers are only cash cows; not valued and served for what they want and wish for. Korea's either crazy or simply ignorant if they want and enjoy things the way they currently are in the shopping arena.
No Christmas cards to be had. They did have a tiny Christmas department the size of a bed with tiny Christmas trees and light sets. Oddly, one of the 3 small trees on display was decorated with gold plastic marijuana leafs.
There was no bake ware available such as pizza pans and cookie sheets.
There's too many sales people standing around in the way doing nothing with space to move about being at a premium.
I did get assistance before I personally searched myself to confirm the sales lady telling me there are no Christmas cards and bakeware. She was right.
It really was a disappointing way to spend 30,000 won on RT transportation and 8 hours of my Saturday so I'm going to just live on Gmarket and my local small grocer from now on. I only wish you could buy import beer and ham off the internet, but you can't to my knowledge. I was happy they had those tiny little hams for 3,600 won that are just like real large sized American hams since they were out last time I went.
I got 5 bottles of hefewiezen and 4 cans of a 8.9% hefewiezen beer along with 4 extra small hams. I searched high and low for beans to no avail. This really is my best attempt at a beer and ham run. Pretty sorry, but I'm enjoying those 4 wonderful high quality bottles of beer tonight at a premium cost.
This is my experience of the Gangneung Emart and it's much better than Taebaeks tiny rinky dink one floor Emart with an even more limited selection. |
Hey dont diss the London Gin, bought them the other day at E-mart a long with a couple of mini-tonic bottle water, all for Man-won; try using those 1.5 litre E-mart green or barley tea instead of normal ice it gives a bit of taste to it. It sure as hell beats those nasty sojus.
You are spot on about the lack of foreign products, I remember when trying to cook a home made spaghetti; they have a few viriety of speghetti sauce but no speghetti noodles in stock, lol. Another reason why E-mart products seem a bit expensive that other supermarkets might be the included tax they have on all their products. |
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Tjames426
Joined: 06 Aug 2006
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:37 am Post subject: |
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You will not find Christmas Cards. You will find fantastic New Year Cards at your local Post office.
Once you see the selection of New Year Cards and the selection...you will be amazed.
Great prices too. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:41 am Post subject: |
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We bought a big box of 30 hand-made Christmas cards at Costco (they say hand-made, anyway).
You can also find cards galore (usually Korean-themed, but really cool) in the basement of techno-mart in front of where the LG X-Note computer free PC bang is, just as you enter from the subway. Techno-mart is located at Gangbyeon station on the Green line in East Seoul. |
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sojourner1

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 5:02 am Post subject: |
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Tjames426 wrote: |
You will not find Christmas Cards. You will find fantastic New Year Cards at your local Post office.
Once you see the selection of New Year Cards and the selection...you will be amazed.
Great prices too. |
Yea, I found out 2 days ago. The prices are great on those cards, but not the selection. Hey, I just want to send cards if not able to gift. I also wish I could find something right now to buy as gifts as there's nothing available. Am I going to gift a 2,000 won orange or 50,000 won bottle of whiskey through airmail? I might as well be on the South pole sending a letter a month late saying, "I hope you had a Merry Christmas, I hope you understand that nothing is for sale here, not even a decent card, as to why I didn't get you anything." No one, but those in Korea would understand that it could possible for Korea to be this silly and stupid when it comes to shopping. They are like kids who forgot or didn't know to include the other things besides rice, kimchee, milk, water, ice cream, candy, and canned pineapple rings. Kids don't know all that so adults handle the many other behind the scenes things to make it all come together and happen. Kidz don't know how a box of Lucky Charms gets to the store shelf so real adults do the logistics seeing it there. Where are the real adult business managers that make things happen? They seem to be absent in Korea with a few exceptions in Seoul.
I know I need to go to Seoul where it's all at, but don't have time until around Christmas when school lets out a few days. This is one rediculous country for claiming to be developed 1st world. It sure had 1st world Switzerland prices, but not the BigBang it should have to command those prices with limited selection. |
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sojourner1

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 5:10 am Post subject: |
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crescent wrote: |
Not to muzzle your rant, but... if Koreans actually wanted foreign products, they would be stocked more. In times of economic uncertainty, national products take even more shelf space, and low selling items lose their shelf space. Imports cost much more now.
Emart is practically the most profitable retailer in the country.
They suck by OUR standards, sure.. but since when has the local economy been quality driven? |
Yes, the thing is, while Koreans will buy and enjoy foreign products, the Korean elite who run the country doesn't allow it to get out of hand as to keep domestic producers well supported. They wouldn't want a true free market, because only the best businesses offering the best selection of great products at reasonable prices do well instead of those wielding power. They sure play a stingy game and we foreign teachers are caught in their trap of what they think is a market economy, but is in fact a plutocracy offering the least to the people it can get away with. While I'm not here to change it, I'm disappointed that a country that has worked so hard and done so well in going from rags to riches gets little to nothing in return for their hard work while a few rich elite enjoy it all. They fly to Hong Kong and Tokyo for their shopping as I seen. I'm disappointed that I feel like I'm in prison. Yes, I'm going after I fulfill what I agreed to do. |
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cangel

Joined: 19 Jun 2003 Location: Jeonju, S. Korea
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 5:38 am Post subject: |
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10 reasons I hate EMart:
1) Stocking shelves during business hours
2) Going weeks/months without restocking items (parmesan cheese for example)
3) Changing locations of items on a whim and then finding them back in their regular locations 2 days later
4) Getting kicked out of the 5 item or under line when you have 6 items
5) 5, as in the number of spices available: salt, pepper, cinnamon, powdered ginger & garlic (although they do now have a few steak seasoning blends that are pretty lame)
6) Spaghetti noodles 5 aisles from spaghetti sauce
7) Carrots covered in dirt
8 ) Just stopped selling real butter (they previously had 2 varieties and now none-may return tomorrow so wait for update)
9)Can't buy 1 ice cream bar-always have to stuff a bag or buy a box
10) Mispriced items almost daily |
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MrRogers
Joined: 29 Jun 2008
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:02 am Post subject: |
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- no lowfat yoghurt
-no oatmeal
- no bottles of lemon juice |
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sojourner1

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:08 am Post subject: |
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I seen those bottles of Lazy Lemon juice shaped like a lemon today, but no oatmeal, beans, and fluffy style rice. Each store is so different. Some have it all and others are only partial, but there appears to be severe limitations as to what they can possibly have. I can't believe this is the Wal*Mart of Korea. Man, they just don't know what shopping really is. |
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cdninkorea

Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:19 am Post subject: |
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A year or so ago I was shopping for a kitchen knife at E-Mart. I found some in one aisle and others five aisles down. Stupified, I asked a sales clerk: why not put all the knives together for easy comparison?
Her answer: the cheap knives are in one aisle and expensive ones in another.  |
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005 Location: Easy Street.
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:25 am Post subject: |
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Does Walmart sell ddok or laver or kimchi? Only if there's a market for it.
There's a whole industry devoted to researching which demographics prefer which products, because you have to understand the local market before you know what to put on the shelves. Why is this so hard to understand? Why are there recurrent threads complaining about Korean supermarkets?
Honestly, do you think immigrants in America complain that the supermarkets are 'backward' because they don't stock the foods their mothers used to cook??
You want foreigner foods, you go to the foreigner supermarkets like the Indian one in Itaewon. |
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sojourner1

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:55 am Post subject: |
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Last time I checked, our supermarkets had kimchee, Korean/Chinese style glutanous rice, and many many other things Asian as well as almost any other kind of food. And this is not just in one part of the country like Itaewon is, but is all cities and even small towns all across the country. Sure it's not a 5 day Korean street market, but you can eat and drink like a Korean in America and even live like one behind closed doors. The Chinese and Indians do this all over the USA. There's many nationalities enjoying living as if they were home, but behind closed doors, because they don't have to eat American food nor be America even though they're there operating a business or working. In fact, a large section of our supermarket floors are dedicated to many tastes from around the world. Of course, America can do that, because she has super large sales floors and millions of immigrants who enjoy such an extensive selection while those of us born in the USA are spoiled on it. Heck, you don't need to travel to taste the world if you only see travel from a perspective of eating like the way many do. I go for the real places and real people so air travel is the way to go instead of just eating authentic curry cooked by real Thai or Indian people to say you understand Thailand and India. We have so many restaurants representing so many nationalities and tastes. Even experimental fusion. We just don't have the robust well paying job market anymore so that younger adults can enjoy the good life the older folks had built when they demanded with their robust earnings.
They experiment a lot in American product selection and many products end up on clearance, but at least they try to improve in better serving the wishes of such a diverse customer base. They do so little in Korea compared to what I'm spoiled on. When Koreans travel abroad or who have been abroad, they do know and understand this issue, but can't change it since the big wigs wield their almighty power to dictate how it's gonna be.
You might say Korea is a small country and it is, but other small countries like Germany can deliver a free market with many choices. Man screw this brainwashed boring nationalism, I'm outta here next warm season and I'm going to have a real meal with a good rum and coke afterward as soon as I go to town. Some new clothes will also be the order of the day too. Just have to be careful not to over eat and end up 19 pounds heavier. When I go, it feels like getting out of prison. Serious. That's just sounds silly, but true. |
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knee-highs

Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Location: yes
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 7:08 am Post subject: |
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sojourner1 wrote: |
I seen those bottles of Lazy Lemon juice shaped like a lemon today, but no oatmeal, beans, and fluffy style rice. Each store is so different. Some have it all and others are only partial, but there appears to be severe limitations as to what they can possibly have. I can't believe this is the Wal*Mart of Korea. Man, they just don't know what shopping really is. |
have you been in a music store? over 90% of the artists on the shelves are Korean. WTF? where is the selection? Only Korean pop music? obvious that these retailers have no clue what sells... if they had some "Rock-Roll" records then i would buy more... hasn't anyone in Korea heard of the "Bedrock Twist"...? that was the best selling album back home... |
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