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burns1
Joined: 20 Nov 2008
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 Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:32 am Post subject: Working hours in hagwons |
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| Just looking for some advice. Coming to Korea, potentially Daegu to teach in the new year, however i was surprised about the number of teaching hours involved. I went through a recruiter and found a job which seems OK but was wondering if 10-8 Moday to Friday was the average working hours in hagwons? Just seemed a bit much, esp given the low number of holidays! |
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losing_touch
Joined: 26 Jun 2008
Location: Ulsan - I think!
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:21 am Post subject: |
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| I work from 1:30 to 7:40. I hope they are offering you a ton of cash for hours like that. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:35 am Post subject: Re: Working hours in hagwons |
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| burns1 wrote: |
| Just looking for some advice. Coming to Korea, potentially Daegu to teach in the new year, however i was surprised about the number of teaching hours involved. I went through a recruiter and found a job which seems OK but was wondering if 10-8 Moday to Friday was the average working hours in hagwons? Just seemed a bit much, esp given the low number of holidays! |
It is a kindy/elementary split shift. Makes for a long day.
You also better ASK HOW MANY CLASSES per week and NOT how many hours per week. That 30 teaching hours sounds a lot like as many as 45 classes of 40 minutes each week and that would just plain suck (especially since even a newbie in a public school gets the same money and only works 22 classes per week). |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:58 am Post subject: |
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there are easily a hundred-plus hagwon jobs at any given time hiring with 6 hour block shifts (3-9pm being the most frequent)
10-8? ten hours between start to finish? gawd i thought six hours was a lot!
if you are at all concerned about length of shift (and personal energy levels) then make that a priority and cross off all offers with longer blocks advertised. there simply are too many jobs for you not to get what you most want.
i work 1:30-6:10, that's 4 hours, 40 minutes... 5 fifty minute classes a day five days a week and i think that's a lot... but i have a celta and years of experience and make 2.5 and get such as a result
but as a newbie with just a degree and a smile one can get 3-9pm or 2-8pm jobs.... look! there are plenty.
even the years i worked six hours a day (the ol' days) i was glad i didn't take one of those jobs with many breaks in the schedule, like the split shifts and the morning kindys or the adult early riser classes
if you want a job where you show up, teach and go home with no breaks inbetween, then that's what you will get! |
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FixedGearJerk
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 7:21 am Post subject: |
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| I have to be in at 10am 3 days a week and 11 am 2 days a week and I am done by 6pm every day. I spend 23 hours in front of the students a week, so I end up with some decent break time between some classes. I actually like it this way. Sometimes I will use the breaks to get my lessons together, but most of the time I will go home and read or study Korean or catch some news. It helps that I live 2 minutes from school though. And personally, for me, I wouldn't want to bust through all my classes back to back. I would wear out and since I don't have a really strong voice, I can give my vocal cords a rest between classes. I like my schedule, it works for me. |
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burns1
Joined: 20 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 9:07 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks for all the helpful info � decided to pass up on the original job and am now looking for something around 30hours per week. |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:04 am Post subject: |
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| FixedGearJerk wrote: |
| ... I wouldn't want to bust through all my classes back to back. I would wear out and since I don't have a really strong voice, I can give my vocal cords a rest between classes... |
Give your voice a rest?  Most teacher talk time ought to be done by university lecturers in particle physics and the like. How the yell do your students learn the language if you're yappin' all the time? If you enjoy all that prep time between classes then use it to design group activities and learner-centred production.
burns1, don't worry about back-to-back classes wearing your voice out. You shouldn't be talking that much. You want 30 hours a week, which is the upper end of standard at a hagwon, you should easily still be able to work 6-hour block shifts, 5 days a week. Forget ten hours. Seriously. I've met plenty of fellow hagwon teachers and not one, not one, has said they like long days.
Good luck whatever. |
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FixedGearJerk
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:22 am Post subject: |
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| VanIslander wrote: |
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| ... I wouldn't want to bust through all my classes back to back. I would wear out and since I don't have a really strong voice, I can give my vocal cords a rest between classes... |
Give your voice a rest? Most teacher talk time ought to be done by university lecturers in particle physics and the like. How the yell do your students learn the language if you're yappin' all the time? If you enjoy all that prep time between classes then use it to design group activities and learner-centred production.
burns1, don't worry about back-to-back classes wearing your voice out. You shouldn't be talking that much. You want 30 hours a week, which is the upper end of standard at a hagwon, you should easily still be able to work 6-hour block shifts, 5 days a week. Forget ten hours. Seriously. I've met plenty of fellow hagwon teachers and not one, not one, has said they like long days.
Good luck whatever. |
I'm no professional teacher, I'll admit that. But, I am teaching a lot of kindergarten classes and kids right out of kindergarten. The group activities work great for a couple of my classes with older students. I get a lot of conversation out of them and it is actually quite fun. However, getting those kindies into group activities and into enough conversation to take a lot of the question asking and talking off of my shoulders is quite a challenge. When your talking to kinders, your talking at a lot louder volume since their a bit harder to keep quite. I'm also expected to get through their workbook in a specified time frame so I don't have much time to veer out of the provided material. And, like I said, I have a fairly soft voice so a couple of hours of kindergarten will leave me a little sore. Obviously, this would not be an issue for everyone. I guess I could be one of those kinder teachers who puts a song on repeat and lets the kids color for the whole class, but that just doesn't seem right.
Also, I'd rather have a 7-8 hour block and be teaching 23 hours a week with time to go home between classes for a couple hours rather than a 6 hour block teaching 30 hours, but thats just me. Some may prefer to get in and get out, even if you do end up teaching a bit more. There are lots of options out there, take your time and find what works best for you. |
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