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Genuine feedback? Am I about to get canned?
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Pack your bags fool.
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Gimpokid



Joined: 09 Nov 2008
Location: Best Gimpo

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:55 am    Post subject: Genuine feedback? Am I about to get canned? Reply with quote

Ok so I work at a somewhat rural PS and things have always seemed to go fine.

Well today we had open classes where parents could come in and observe. In one class I noticed a very unusual "mom". She was dressed very nicely and was sitting with the principal and filling out a very official looking form.

This was the conversation I had with a KT after class.

Me: "So who was the woman with the principal filling out the form?"

KT: "A mother, Korean parents sometimes like to take notes in their children's classes"

Me: "Oh c'mon, who was she? Was she from the school district?"

KT: "No comment."

Me: "Ummmm...Ok. Well what do the other teachers think of me? Do they think I do a good job?"

KT: "Maybe"

Me: ???

Seroiusly, "no comment" and "maybe". Are Koreans really this hard to get input from? I get told 20 times a day that I'm handsome and have a "small face", but when it comes to anything relevant I get the brush off. Am I about to get fired or they trying to keep me from getting an inflated ego?

Thoughts?
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sojusucks



Joined: 31 May 2008

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they tell you that you are doing a good job then you can use it against them later.

Principal: You need to do X.
You: But Ms. Y said that my teaching style is very good.

That "parent" can make life difficult or great as parents will talk.

You have to fight back if you want that job. You have to do something good but remember that "good" in Korea is mediocre elsewhere.

Bring in a small snack during the week of Christmas or something for students. But, get the teachers on your side. Bring them a small Christmas gift or bring in snacks occaisionally. Get the teachers talking about how kind and nice you are. This is more important than your teaching abilities, as your reputation will influence how Koreans think of you far more than how you teach.

Otherwise, pack your bags and look for another school. This may not be a bad idea depending upon your situation at your school.
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I'm no Picasso



Joined: 28 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My coteachers are pretty direct when they think I'm doing something wrong/right. But then again, my school seems to be quite different from a lot of public schools, from what I've read on this board.

It's a pretty big hassle I think to get another foreign teacher, especially with the exchange rate at the moment. And they'll have to start all over with someone who knows eff all about teaching, more than likely. So I would think they would be more likely to correct if you are doing something wrong. But then, logic isn't always king.
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Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would this make you think you're going to get fired??? It amounts to you asking for feedback and them shrugging.
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Gimpokid



Joined: 09 Nov 2008
Location: Best Gimpo

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Draz wrote:
Why would this make you think you're going to get fired???


I am probally over reacting. It was that "maybe" comment. I mean wtf is that? They're usually very direct and it threw me. Honestly they spent a ton of cash on me lately, so I doubt I'll really get fired.

I just need a little validation...I don't work here for the money...I'm trying to get some semblance of appreciation beyond "you sure are a pretty whiteboy"
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Gimpokid



Joined: 09 Nov 2008
Location: Best Gimpo

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sojusucks wrote:
If they tell you that you are doing a good job then you can use it against them later.

Principal: You need to do X.
You: But Ms. Y said that my teaching style is very good.

That "parent" can make life difficult or great as parents will talk.

You have to fight back if you want that job. You have to do something good but remember that "good" in Korea is mediocre elsewhere.

Bring in a small snack during the week of Christmas or something for students. But, get the teachers on your side. Bring them a small Christmas gift or bring in snacks occaisionally. Get the teachers talking about how kind and nice you are. This is more important than your teaching abilities, as your reputation will influence how Koreans think of you far more than how you teach.

Otherwise, pack your bags and look for another school. This may not be a bad idea depending upon your situation at your school.


The job is dope. Everyone loves me. It wasn't until today that I got these ambiguous comments.

I have been slackin on the gift giving. They have been seriously hookin me up. For Thanksgiving I prepared a giant gift basket of stuff for the staff and a smaller yet tighter one for the principal...maybe I'll bring em in a day early...
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nobbyken



Joined: 07 Jun 2006
Location: Yongin ^^

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe can mean maybe not, in Korean English.

Any praise of staff at school can be taken with a pinch of salt.
Often it's genuine of course, but it's always better to say something nice rather than nothing at all.
Most may lack the fluency skills to use English subtly, so it's always the extremes you hear.
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Gimpokid



Joined: 09 Nov 2008
Location: Best Gimpo

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's the thing, it was 100% neutral. "Maybe" means nothing in this context. Maybe what? Maybe you're gettin a raise or maybe you should throw yourself off a bridge.
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wheredowego



Joined: 14 Nov 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What was the body language of the woman and the principal? I find that you'll often see Koreans put on a serious face if they want to scare you into doing a better job. If they were smiling and relaxed I wouldn't worry about it. Remember that your Korean teachers probably blew you off because they were specifically instructed not to tell you anything.
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Gimpokid



Joined: 09 Nov 2008
Location: Best Gimpo

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was definately giggling and teeth covering....
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EuroFunk



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: jobless in Busan

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

5,000 WON says you won't get fired.
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mogbert



Joined: 10 May 2004

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you're obviously going to get fired. you should save face and quit before they can fire you, imo.
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Jellypah



Joined: 27 Oct 2004
Location: ROK

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mogbert wrote:
you're obviously going to get fired. you should save face and quit before they can fire you, imo.


Ha ha!

OP - the "maybe" may have meant that she wasn't sure what the other teachers thought, or she didn't want to say what they thought.

I wouldn't sweat it, though I agree that you should definitely give them all gifts and then promptly resign. Laughing
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Teelo



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Wellington, NZ

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gimpokid wrote:
I don't work here for the money...

Ahahahahahah aha hahh ahha ha ha ha ha haha Laughing Laughing Laughing



Oh wait you're serious?
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The_Source



Joined: 09 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Genuine feedback? Am I about to get canned? Reply with quote

Gimpokid wrote:
Do they think I do a good job?"

KT: "Maybe"


Even if they had said "no," WHO CARES what they think! They need you more than you need them.

All they care about is having a native English speaker in the classroom, preferably with a handsome/pretty face.
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