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mack the knife

Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: standing right behind you...
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Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 6:42 pm Post subject: Why would you come here now? |
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With the won/dollar (and just about every other currency) ratio being as poor as it is, you simply can't make any money here now. Who in their right mind would sign a contract now?
I predict that the next wave of teachers entering Korea will be bottom feeders, par excellence. |
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aarontendo

Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Location: Daegu-ish
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Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah coming here now ain't such a great idea. Hell go to Japan, China, shit even Thailand at this point. |
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Perceptioncheck
Joined: 13 Oct 2008
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Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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Why would I come here?
Well, for starters I could enjoy reading slight variations on the same The-Won-Is-Crashing-It's-The-End-Of-The-World theme every single day on Dave's ESL Cafe! Oh, what fun! |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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I may have come here with the intention of staying a year just because of the free flight, but when I quit my first job after half a year I probably would have tried to find a job in another country. That way I could have pulled a runner at the worst possible time and F-ed my boss far worse. |
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branchsnapper
Joined: 21 Feb 2008
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Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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Weren't you going on about being professional yesterday, YBS?
Some people come for the cultural experience. They don't get it, but they do come for it. If Korea had a really good recruitment system in place abroad and less visa fuss they could probably pay less.
By the way, there's a weeny little problem going on in the west right now. So people might be looking for some jobs. |
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sojourner1

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
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Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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Why would you come here now?
To escape the doldrums of having little opportunity in America's poorest job market since the 1930's and get the rent monkey off your back.
To get away from the crime that increasing devastating poverty is doing.
To get valuable experience teaching brats who may not care to listen to anything you say.
To save up the Korean won for the day the Korean won is worth a lot more than it is today.
To see and smell what a dirty armpit without deodorant is like.
To experience another culture, the most boring dull culture in Asia except the dive that North Korea probably is.
To get sparkled in the land of sparkling pureness. |
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Xuanzang

Joined: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Sadang
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Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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Japan doesnt have infinite job openings and there`s a glut of people thinking strong yen, modern technology, clean country, etc. You might just come to Korea because it would be better than the nothing you have back home. |
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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There's no good reason.
It's not rocket science. Compared with a year ago salaries are the same and the won is worse. If you come here and the won doesn't recover you've lost that money (unless you plan on retiring here). Go somewhere else until salaries increase or the won goes back up. Maybe just go somewhere else for good. |
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branchsnapper
Joined: 21 Feb 2008
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Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Could you give us a list of the countries that have a lot of ESL jobs in order of salary please Marlow? |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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branchsnapper wrote: |
Weren't you going on about being professional yesterday, YBS?
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I could have come to work in my underwear and still would have been more professional than that place. Were it an easier option, leaving asap would have been a more professional thing to do that stick it out 30 more days. |
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nobbyken

Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Location: Yongin ^^
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Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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Standard with associated cost of living is good here. Fuel costs about 70% of that in the UK, lots of buses to use too.
Debt in a country keeps you tied to that infrastructure.
Get rid of debt then your salary relative to the exchange rate doesn't figure anymore.
Credit has been the fuel for the current world market problems.
Debt is the real back breaking monkey. If you can't afford it, wait till you can instead of signing your life away.
Debt has become the culture of the UK and the West in general.
Korea's new advertising slogan, "South Korea, better than North Korea." |
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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branchsnapper wrote: |
Could you give us a list of the countries that have a lot of ESL jobs in order of salary please Marlow? |
No. I wouldn't mind giving China a try, though.
The exchange is shit right now, that's a fact. Why gamble on it recovering if you don't have to? Someone doing this for a year in 2009 isn't going to bank coin in Korea. |
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FixedGearJerk
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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I'm suprised that the type of people that choose to live abroad and teach children are such a greedy lot. Money, money, money. Is it really all about the money? Give me a break. If you want money so bad why didn't you choose a more suitable path?
I make enough money here to live comfortably. Granted I'm not a very materialistic person and I pretty much stick to the eccentials, but I can still pay the bills and put some money in the bank.
I really hope you get rich teaching English, but I'm thinking its probably not going to work out for you. |
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sojourner1

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
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Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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FixedGearJerk wrote: |
I'm suprised that the type of people that choose to live abroad and teach children are such a greedy lot. Money, money, money. Is it really all about the money? Give me a break. If you want money so bad why didn't you choose a more suitable path?
I make enough money here to live comfortably. Granted I'm not a very materialistic person and I pretty much stick to the eccentials, but I can still pay the bills and put some money in the bank.
I really hope you get rich teaching English, but I'm thinking its probably not going to work out for you. |
It's really not about money; it's about indepdently setting out on your own for an adventure out into the world. Many of us are scared about financial insecurity so we are thinking about money due to a hardening economic environment this age brings us. If you had to take out student loans to pay for college, find that degree doesn't carry a return on investment value, you still only earn what someone with a HS diploma earns, have no inheritance coming, and wonder how you're going to handle parents' funerals with no money nor life insurance to speak of, you begin to worry and focus on money as you go through your 20's or 30's in an expensive day and age that offers negative economic growth and high unemployment with most jobs only offering stagnant low wages of declining value due to inflation.
Of course, there's the idea of buying life insurance on your parents and grandparents, if still alive, but you'll find either they are not eligible due to being too old or too poor health, you'll have to pay many years before the policy pays out in the event of death, or the premiums will be too much to handle if you become unemployed.
Money's a b*tch in this time period in history we in and because it so sucks big willy wonkas, we're thinking and talking money more and more. Not only us on this site, but most Americans are talking about economics, business, and finance too. This is the #1 hot topic now. |
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branchsnapper
Joined: 21 Feb 2008
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Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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That's a bit harsh Fixedgear, because many of them have no skills to speak of and are in debt, debt, debt. (as previous post said). |
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