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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| endo wrote: |
| Come on CC, the way you wrote it, it's very understandable as to why some poster might of misjudged your quote. |
And what should a person do if they are unclear on a post? Call me out as a Pedo?? Seriously man, as a fairly rational poster on here, you don't think it's a little overboard saying stuff like that to me about something that could be read different ways? Would it not have been better to simply ask me my thoughts on it? Or heck, they could actually read my previous post in this thread where I disagreed with the ruling.Read what I wrote again... I have no doubt that you can see the difference between 'understand' and 'agree'.
I understand why many Koreans have hard feelings to wards Japan, but I don't nessisarily agree with it.
There's a big difference between those two words... and being called a pedophile is not warranted. |
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 3:47 am Post subject: |
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You are called Captain Corea (with the "C" I might add) and you do have a history of being a homer apologist from time to time.
So dude, really no need to get upset as you just did.
Because I can understand  .......forget about it. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 3:53 am Post subject: |
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| endo wrote: |
You are called Captain Corea (with the "C" I might add) and you do have a history of being a homer apologist from time to time.
So dude, really no need to get upset as you just did.
Because I can understand .......forget about it. |
You know, I would have gained oodles of respect for you if you would have said something to NoExplode about his post. If you would have said, "Hey, CC is a known apologist here but he's usually pretty even handed. Why not ask him instead of casting out nasty accusations like that?"
But endo, instead of calling out the new troll to this forum, you've actually decided to call out me??! You're actually telling me I shouldn't be bothered about being called a incestuous pedophile? Are you serious that that's the road you'd like to take in this case? That'd you'd prefer to talk to me about my posting behavior, but not the one with the nasty comment?
The only thing that is making me feel better about his post is that I finally looked at his join date. He joined this month... and from the looks of his posts, he's some type of reoccurring troll.
But thanks Endo, you're a good one to have around.  |
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NoExplode
Joined: 15 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:38 am Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
| And while we both (somewhat) understood the judge's rationale behind the ruling, |
Why? Are you an incestuous pedophile too? |
Sorry, CC, but he's asking a valid question. Even "somewhat" agreeing with releasing a disabled rape victim back to the very people who assaulted her for years is pretty fucked up. Did you read that before you posted it, or was your post just an attempt to sound important for having lunch with "a former Supreme Court Justice here in korea?" |
I've got to ask - are you two seriously this dumb? Are you really that unable to know the difference between the words 'understand' and 'agree'??
If I say that I understand someones approach to a topic that does not mean that I agree with it.
Why don't you actually read what I wrote and get your head out of your arse. Noexplode, if you want to try to call me out as a pedophile, you're looking to be raked over the coals here. That's fucking nasty accusation, and I'm asking you to rescind it.
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| To be fair, CC said he understood why the judge thought he made the right choice not that he agreed with it. |
Finally, someone who hasn't spent too much time reading Let's Go 1, and actually knows how to read. Thanks Dossi.
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| Isn't the reason for lifetime appoint to make the judge at ease at making decisions based on law, instead of politics? |
Yup, that is exactly why.
*beep*, I'm kind of pissed off now. I post up some real life experience that is actually applicable to the current situation - one that actually might give us some insight into it (beyond the rudimentary knowledge we get from the English dailies), and I'm called out as a pedophile.
Some people need a pop in the snout. |
Why would you bother writing that you "understand" something where the facts are laid out as clear as day?
That would be like me feeling the need to tell others that I "understand" that 2+2=4.
Sure, we all understand the ruling. They f*cked their niece/granddaughter and they got released on parole, with the child being put back into custody of her rapists. What about this would someone not understand? There's no debate on this point.
I'll take back my comment when you answer the above. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 5:12 am Post subject: |
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I understood the ruling, with the limited information provided in the English news, to be affected by the situation of the victim. Apparently orphaned, and with no one to take care of her, the judge decided to put her back with the molesters rather than have her out on the street.
I personally would have liked to know if there was some way in which there could be a monetary penalty levied against the rapists so as to have the victim's needs taken care of.
So yeah, I understood in part why the judge ruled the way he did - as far as I can figure, the young girl has no other means of support (including from the Gov)... but I would hope to hell that some other option steps forward.
As well, I hope that the appeal overturns this ruling.
You talk about the 'facts being laid out as clear as day' in this case... but they are not. In fact, the details of this case are extremely limited in the articles provided - and I'm somewhat glad for that. I don't want (nor need) to know all the facts of the case.
I am curious as to how these people obtained custody of the minor. As well, I'd really like to know what services (private or otherwise) that could step in to help this girl out.
Are you sure you know all the facts of this case? Are you sure that you know every detail pertaining to this girl's situation?
Keep your fucking comment jackass, I'll be sure to be calling you out on this forum every time you make asinine comments like you've done above. |
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hugekebab
Joined: 05 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 6:13 am Post subject: |
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| F***in hell ladies, handbags at ten paces. |
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mzeno
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 6:19 am Post subject: |
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| Obviously the judge also suffers from an "intellectual disability," but I fail to see how this reflects uniquely on Korean culture. Pedophile priests were protected by the Catholic church for years and years in the US. I'm afraid it's more an indictment of human nature than anything else. |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 6:30 am Post subject: |
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| mzeno wrote: |
| Obviously the judge also suffers from an "intellectual disability," but I fail to see how this reflects uniquely on Korean culture. Pedophile priests were protected by the Catholic church for years and years in the US. I'm afraid it's more an indictment of human nature than anything else. |
Pedo priests were protected from within. These uncles have been protected by a judge. It's an indictment of a society with very little rule of law, in practice. |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 6:37 am Post subject: |
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| Seems to me the problem (besides the abuse of course) was a crappy decision by a crappy judge. |
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Scotticus
Joined: 18 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 7:52 am Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
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Sorry, CC, but he's asking a valid question. Even "somewhat" agreeing with releasing a disabled rape victim back to the very people who assaulted her for years is pretty fucked up. Did you read that before you posted it, or was your post just an attempt to sound important for having lunch with "a former Supreme Court Justice here in korea?" |
I've got to ask - are you two seriously this dumb? Are you really that unable to know the difference between the words 'understand' and 'agree'??
If I say that I understand someones approach to a topic that does not mean that I agree with it.
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You're making the distinction between creepy and ignorant and choosing to portray yourself as the latter. Congrats? |
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mzeno
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 8:29 am Post subject: |
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| Pedo priests were protected from within. These uncles have been protected by a judge. It's an indictment of a society with very little rule of law, in practice |
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I'm curious. What country is the benchmark for the 'rule of law?' |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 8:52 am Post subject: |
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| Scotticus wrote: |
| Captain Corea wrote: |
| Scotticus wrote: |
Sorry, CC, but he's asking a valid question. Even "somewhat" agreeing with releasing a disabled rape victim back to the very people who assaulted her for years is pretty fucked up. Did you read that before you posted it, or was your post just an attempt to sound important for having lunch with "a former Supreme Court Justice here in korea?" |
I've got to ask - are you two seriously this dumb? Are you really that unable to know the difference between the words 'understand' and 'agree'??
If I say that I understand someones approach to a topic that does not mean that I agree with it.
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You're making the distinction between creepy and ignorant and choosing to portray yourself as the latter. Congrats? |
No, that's not the distinction I'm making. Do you even read my posts?
Let me make it clear to you once again Scotticus - saying that you understand something is not the same as saying that you agree with it. Are you really that unable to comprehend this simple part of the English language? |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
| And while we both (somewhat) understood the judge's rationale behind the ruling, |
Why? Are you an incestuous pedophile too? |
Wow, that's just wrong on so many levels. |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Pedo priests were protected from within. These uncles have been protected by a judge. It's an indictment of a society with very little rule of law, in practice |
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I'm curious. What country is the benchmark for the 'rule of law?' |
Any country where police are respected by the citzenry, where police corruption is minimal, where there is an independent judiciary. A good example is Canada. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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Granted that this guy had children with his children, but the similarities in this case and the one in Korea are hard to miss.
The guy got a life verdict in England:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,457611,00.html
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Father Raped Daughters For 30 Years, Bore 9 Children
Tuesday, November 25, 2008
LONDON � A father who repeatedly raped his two daughters for nearly 30 years told the children the abuse would never stop.
They finally broke the silence this year, but only after he had fathered nine of their children.
After nearly three decades of abuse, the 56-year-old father was sentenced Tuesday to life in prison with the possibility of parole in about 20 years after pleading guilty last month to rape and assault. During years of incestuous abuse, the man fathered nine children from his two daughters.
"In nearly 40 years of dealing with criminal cases ... (this) is the worst I have come across," judge Alan Goldsack said in his ruling at Sheffield Crown Court in northern England.
The case carries echoes of the case of Josef Fritzl � an Austrian man who confessed to imprisoning his daughter in a cellar for 24 years and fathering her seven children.
Prosecutor Nicholas Campbell said the daughters were raped regularly from an early age. If they resisted, they would be punched, kicked or held to the flames of a gas fire.
The father was furious when he first found out his eldest daughter was pregnant, but nevertheless he refused to let the girls take birth control pills, Campbell said.
The girls' only reprieve came after they had just given birth or when they were too badly hurt by his abuse, Campbell said.
In one incident, the father held a knife to his eldest daughter's throat and told her: "It's never going to end," according to Campbell.
The father made his elder daughter pregnant seven times, fathering two children by her. She bore two other children but they died the day they were born. He made his younger daughter pregnant 12 times; Campbell said she has five surviving children.
The family reportedly moved house around small and isolated villages in northern England.
Campbell said the man held the family � including his wife and son � under a reign of terror. The daughters reported the abuse earlier this year to social workers but it was unclear how the incest could remain secret for so long.
Although the sisters were kept out of school when they bore marks of their abuse, Campbell said that even neighbors had commented on the family's growing numbers.
Goldsack, the judge, noted that they made frequent visits to the hospital.
"Questions will inevitably be asked about what professionals, social and medical workers, have been doing for the last 20 years," Goldsack said. Those questions were likely to dominate the front pages in Britain, where attention has lately focused on problems with the country's child welfare services. The British tabloid press was already up in arms over the death of a toddler who was allowed to suffer months of excruciating abuse at the hands of carers despite regular visits to his home by social workers, doctors, and police.
Authorities said they had already launched an investigation.
The sisters said their abuse would stay with them "for many years."
"We must now concentrate our thoughts on finding the strength to rebuild our lives," they said in a statement read out by South Yorkshire Police Chief Superintendent Simon Torr.
The girls' mother left her husband in the early 1990s. Prosecutors said the woman, who was reportedly divorced from her husband, was not facing charges. Britain's Daily Mail newspaper said the brother of the sisters tried to alert police to the incest in 1997, but that the sisters refused to cooperate and nothing happened.
During the hearing Tuesday, Campbell quoted him as saying that his father had a "Jekyll and Hyde personality" and that he lost his temper at the drop of a hat.
"All the family were frightened of him," Campbell said. "The defendant also ensured that his family were kept isolated and that there were very few visitors to the home," he said. "Rather than having baby sitters, the children recall being locked in their rooms when their mother and father went out."
Reporting restrictions bar the publication of most identifying details about the family. |
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