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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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 Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:01 am Post subject: Need some tips on traveling to NYC |
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My flight is leaving from Newark to Korea in January.
The question I have is about where I should stay. It seems the places with the most reasonable prices is in Newark, by the airport.
Jsut how far is that from NYC? I plan on making 2 day trips into the Big Apple.
Day 1: Head in in the morning, sightsee all day, and come back around dinner time.
Day 2: Head in during the afternoon, and come back later that night, around 1o or 11.
Is Newark a good place to stay if I want to go around NYC? I won't have a car, so will I be able to get in to NYC, and back to my hotel without paying an arm and a leg with a cab? |
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healed
Joined: 29 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:49 am Post subject: Re: Need some tips on traveling to NYC |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
My flight is leaving from Newark to Korea in January.
The question I have is about where I should stay. It seems the places with the most reasonable prices is in Newark, by the airport.
Jsut how far is that from NYC? I plan on making 2 day trips into the Big Apple.
Day 1: Head in in the morning, sightsee all day, and come back around dinner time.
Day 2: Head in during the afternoon, and come back later that night, around 1o or 11.
Is Newark a good place to stay if I want to go around NYC? I won't have a car, so will I be able to get in to NYC, and back to my hotel without paying an arm and a leg with a cab? |
The travel time from Newark Airport area to midtown is about 25 min or so normally but that could nearly double in heavy traffic. If you want more of a NYC experience check out hotels in Brooklyn, near the Brooklyn Bridge, and hotels on the Upper West Side. These areas will be cheaper than other areas in/around Manhattan and they'll put you close to the sights.
Once you get out and about in the city you'll hate having to make the long haul back to Newark. And once there you'll be so far from the city, and you'll feel it. How much are you talking for Newark hotels? Also factor in whether or not you're traveling during the holidays when looking at prices. But really tourism is suffering so...
Oh the bus into the city from the airport area is $10 I think. A cab would be an arm and a leg, upwards of $60. |
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soviet_man
Joined: 23 Apr 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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If you change the word "hotel" to "hostel" you could easily stay in central Manhattan for circa $40 a night and save yourself a whole heap of grief.
2 nights is not long - you will only go there to sleep. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:34 pm Post subject: Re: Need some tips on traveling to NYC |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
My flight is leaving from Newark to Korea in January.
The question I have is about where I should stay. It seems the places with the most reasonable prices is in Newark, by the airport.
Jsut how far is that from NYC? I plan on making 2 day trips into the Big Apple.
Day 1: Head in in the morning, sightsee all day, and come back around dinner time.
Day 2: Head in during the afternoon, and come back later that night, around 1o or 11.
Is Newark a good place to stay if I want to go around NYC? I won't have a car, so will I be able to get in to NYC, and back to my hotel without paying an arm and a leg with a cab? |
If you stay at a hotel near EWR, you should see if there is a shuttle from the hotel to EWR and/or the EWR train station. If so, you can take a NJ Transit train to NY Penn Station. It is 30 minutes tops between the two stations. NJ Transit's website has schedule and fare info.
Also, try Priceline.com to see if you can get a room in NYC itself. I've gotten good hotel rooms in Manhattan for under 100 bucks/night. In October I was able to get a room just over 100 in Brooklyn, a block away from the subway.
Honestly, going from EWR to midtown isn't that bad, but doing it multiple times in a couple days might get tiresome for you. And as soviet_man said, there are hostel options in NYC. |
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D.D.
Joined: 29 May 2008
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Years ago we stayed at the Howard Johnson in Manhatten and it was not that expensive. Not sure about these days? |
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alex83
Joined: 03 May 2007
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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Fort Lee isn't bad.
Right across the river from Manhattan and fairly cheap hotels can be had.
The city itself isn't bad either...it'll likely remind you of Korea, though, with it's large K-population.
I stayed in Fort Lee once myself, but that was with my brother when he lived there. |
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moosehead
Joined: 05 May 2007
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| Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:52 pm Post subject: Re: Need some tips on traveling to NYC |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
My flight is leaving from Newark to Korea in January.
The question I have is about where I should stay. It seems the places with the most reasonable prices is in Newark, by the airport.
Jsut how far is that from NYC? I plan on making 2 day trips into the Big Apple.
Day 1: Head in in the morning, sightsee all day, and come back around dinner time.
Day 2: Head in during the afternoon, and come back later that night, around 1o or 11.
Is Newark a good place to stay if I want to go around NYC? I won't have a car, so will I be able to get in to NYC, and back to my hotel without paying an arm and a leg with a cab? |
the operative words here are "by the airport"
Newark Airport is so HUGE - and I don't really recall Newark itself being all that close - that is - there's a lot of driving involved.
OP - honestly - I want to be upfront with you - I lived in nyc for nearly 2 decades - it's a tough town - tourists get in trouble all the time - my nephew came up one weekend planning on visiting - drove up from DC with some friends but arrived late so they partied a while, planning to see me the next day - his car was towed while they were out.
that's just the tip of the iceberg -
if you are traveling during the holidays - wow - so MANY people will be also and that means open season for thieves, pickpockets, you name it.
so, w/all that in mind - don't stay in a hostel whatever you do - their rep for security is lacking, to say the least. stay in a real hotel, and if you really want to see Manhattan, stay in Manhattan - it's hard, really hard, getting around. You'll thank me later for this. It's worth it to spend the extra bucks - there's lots to do that won't cost you an arm and a leg.
recommendations:
1) Ellis Island - an all day or almost all day affair - well worth it, very modern, excellent museum. go as early as you possibly can, 6-7 a.m. is good - beat the crowds
2) The Stock Exchange. - a lot of people don't even know there is a tour - this the heartbeat of America - capitialism at it's moment - the tour is about 1-1/2 hours. google it for more info - used to be free, don't know if it still is
3) times square at night - the #1 reason you want to stay in Manhattan.
4) Central Park - weekends if possible in the afternoon - ask where the fountain is, walk around, is great, people watching at its finest
5) American Museum of Natural History
6) Whitney Museum of ARt
7) Metropolitan Museum of Art
Nightlife:
pm me and I'll share - tell me what you'd like - for off the wall, avant garde, cutting edge expressionism - The Kitchen is the best in the world.
also check out Time Out New York for other stuff, or the Village Voice online for happenings.
have fun! |
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MikeGrey
Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Incheon
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| Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:20 pm Post subject: Re: Need some tips on traveling to NYC |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
My flight is leaving from Newark to Korea in January.
The question I have is about where I should stay. It seems the places with the most reasonable prices is in Newark, by the airport.
Jsut how far is that from NYC? I plan on making 2 day trips into the Big Apple.
Day 1: Head in in the morning, sightsee all day, and come back around dinner time.
Day 2: Head in during the afternoon, and come back later that night, around 1o or 11.
Is Newark a good place to stay if I want to go around NYC? I won't have a car, so will I be able to get in to NYC, and back to my hotel without paying an arm and a leg with a cab? |
A cab from Newark airport costs, I believe, around 50 dollars. I'm pretty sure you can take New Jersey transit into manhattan for under twenty dollars. NJ transit'll take you straight into the heart of manhattan. You just have to pick somewhere easily accessed by the trains in Jersey. A quick search online'll do it.
Hostels are a good idea.
Everything is expensive in manhattan.
If you can manage it would be a good idea to go to Brooklyn and see Brooklyn Heights, great view of lower manhattan and park Slope. Both areas have great places to eat, places to eat, and aren't as touristy, but not as many museums to wander around, or tall buildings.
Also, the village and the Lower East Side of Manhattan are full of great sights that tourists miss.
I mean. Do you really want to see Times Square? It's a dump.
I'm from New York and going back in January as well. |
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Jeff's Cigarettes
Joined: 27 Mar 2007
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Don't stay in Newark. Stay somewhere in the NYC berbs. You can stay in N.Tarrytown on the Hudson (my hometown) and West Point is close by. It's a nice, peaceful and scenic area, unlike Newark which is enveloped in smelly smog 24/7. You can get a train in and out of the city.
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moosehead
Joined: 05 May 2007
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 2:08 am Post subject: Re: Need some tips on traveling to NYC |
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Hostels are a good idea.
Everything is expensive in manhattan.
If you can manage it would be a good idea to go to Brooklyn and see Brooklyn Heights, great view of lower manhattan and park Slope. Both areas have great places to eat, places to eat, and aren't as touristy, but not as many museums to wander around, or tall buildings.
Also, the village and the Lower East Side of Manhattan are full of great sights that tourists miss.
I mean. Do you really want to see Times Square? It's a dump.
I'm from New York and going back in January as well. |
wow - there are so many - hmm - errors here -
you said above you are from Tarrytown - and clearly from your comments you don't know squat about what's good and what's not
once more, hostels in nyc are NOT a good idea - I've known people who stayed there and said they were dirty, scary and difficult to rest in - think about it - cheap housing in one of the most expensive cities in the world - who is it going to attract? be safe, be secure - stay in a hotel - there really are less expensive ones around, if you check.
Manhattan is NOT all expensive -there's plenty of great things to do and see, as well as to eat, for reasonable prices - cheap even - if you know where to go - as the locals do (like me)
Brooklyn is NOT for the faint of heart - especially after dark - and since it closes down virtually all over around 8 p.m. - not a good recommendation unless someone is accompanying the person and they know exactly where they are and where they are going - Brooklyn Heights is a neighborhood - where a person might find good views is something one might have difficulty with finding upon first arrival - and one can just walk across the Brooklyn Bridge for that matter - but again, it's pretty difficult when one doesn't know one's way around.
as for not many museums or not as touristy - clearly you haven't been to the Brooklyn Museum - and as for not as touristy - there really isn't any part of nyc that ISN'T touristy - it's pretty much taken over everywhere by tourists.
and why would you call Times Square a dump?  I mean, really? it's a great place to see at night - why else would Nasdaq, various news orgs, MTV, various clubs, Broadway shows, the Ed Sullivan Theater (down the street (it's where Letterman's show is) and a host of other places be there? I used to work there - in the Morgan Stanley building - don't think they'd still be dropping the ball there on New Year's Eve amongst 2 million people if it was considered a dump.
if anything, it's a tourist trap - full of people from all over looking at people from - all over - 
then you mention the Village - yet if anything - that's where most of the suburban yuppies go on the weekend to gawk hoping to see a couple of guys holding hands or kiss or something - most everyone else heads out for nightlife elsewhere.
the Lower East Side - yes, there are a lot of artists who live there and street art is around - but it's virtually everywhere in nyc - one just has to open one's eyes to it - that's what's so great about it - but again - to tell someone to go to the LES w/o specific directions - that's just plain arrogant - but then - so are most of the suburbanites who flock into Manhattan just to hang out and rag on it but never stick around long enough to understand the city and the people who make it work. |
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MikeGrey
Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Incheon
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 5:59 pm Post subject: Re: Need some tips on traveling to NYC |
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I'm sorry. Time's Square is a dump. Bright lights and thousands of tourists. There's nothing really to do there. Want to go see Letterman, or another show? Be prepared to wait all day.
Brooklyn. Yeah. The brooklyn museum is okay, but Brooklyn is not that dangerous, and NYC is the city that never sleeps. It doesn't shut down. Park Slope and Brooklyn Heights are pretty safe. There's a cool Masonic Temple in Fort Greene. Do you know where Brooklyn is man?
And Manhattan is expensive. If you don't think it is, clearly you haven't been there in the past five years. I've lived in Brooklyn for five years.
Yes I'm arrogant. Excuse me. Where did you live in New York?
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| MikeGrey wrote: |
Hostels are a good idea.
Everything is expensive in manhattan.
If you can manage it would be a good idea to go to Brooklyn and see Brooklyn Heights, great view of lower manhattan and park Slope. Both areas have great places to eat, places to eat, and aren't as touristy, but not as many museums to wander around, or tall buildings.
Also, the village and the Lower East Side of Manhattan are full of great sights that tourists miss.
I mean. Do you really want to see Times Square? It's a dump.
I'm from New York and going back in January as well. |
wow - there are so many - hmm - errors here -
you said above you are from Tarrytown - and clearly from your comments you don't know squat about what's good and what's not
once more, hostels in nyc are NOT a good idea - I've known people who stayed there and said they were dirty, scary and difficult to rest in - think about it - cheap housing in one of the most expensive cities in the world - who is it going to attract? be safe, be secure - stay in a hotel - there really are less expensive ones around, if you check.
Manhattan is NOT all expensive -there's plenty of great things to do and see, as well as to eat, for reasonable prices - cheap even - if you know where to go - as the locals do (like me)
Brooklyn is NOT for the faint of heart - especially after dark - and since it closes down virtually all over around 8 p.m. - not a good recommendation unless someone is accompanying the person and they know exactly where they are and where they are going - Brooklyn Heights is a neighborhood - where a person might find good views is something one might have difficulty with finding upon first arrival - and one can just walk across the Brooklyn Bridge for that matter - but again, it's pretty difficult when one doesn't know one's way around.
as for not many museums or not as touristy - clearly you haven't been to the Brooklyn Museum - and as for not as touristy - there really isn't any part of nyc that ISN'T touristy - it's pretty much taken over everywhere by tourists.
and why would you call Times Square a dump? I mean, really? it's a great place to see at night - why else would Nasdaq, various news orgs, MTV, various clubs, Broadway shows, the Ed Sullivan Theater (down the street (it's where Letterman's show is) and a host of other places be there? I used to work there - in the Morgan Stanley building - don't think they'd still be dropping the ball there on New Year's Eve amongst 2 million people if it was considered a dump.
if anything, it's a tourist trap - full of people from all over looking at people from - all over -
then you mention the Village - yet if anything - that's where most of the suburban yuppies go on the weekend to gawk hoping to see a couple of guys holding hands or kiss or something - most everyone else heads out for nightlife elsewhere.
the Lower East Side - yes, there are a lot of artists who live there and street art is around - but it's virtually everywhere in nyc - one just has to open one's eyes to it - that's what's so great about it - but again - to tell someone to go to the LES w/o specific directions - that's just plain arrogant - but then - so are most of the suburbanites who flock into Manhattan just to hang out and rag on it but never stick around long enough to understand the city and the people who make it work. |
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MikeGrey
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I'm no Picasso
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 11:58 pm Post subject: Re: Need some tips on traveling to NYC |
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| moosehead wrote: |
| MikeGrey wrote: |
Hostels are a good idea.
Everything is expensive in manhattan.
If you can manage it would be a good idea to go to Brooklyn and see Brooklyn Heights, great view of lower manhattan and park Slope. Both areas have great places to eat, places to eat, and aren't as touristy, but not as many museums to wander around, or tall buildings.
Also, the village and the Lower East Side of Manhattan are full of great sights that tourists miss.
I mean. Do you really want to see Times Square? It's a dump.
I'm from New York and going back in January as well. |
wow - there are so many - hmm - errors here -
you said above you are from Tarrytown - and clearly from your comments you don't know squat about what's good and what's not
once more, hostels in nyc are NOT a good idea - I've known people who stayed there and said they were dirty, scary and difficult to rest in - think about it - cheap housing in one of the most expensive cities in the world - who is it going to attract? be safe, be secure - stay in a hotel - there really are less expensive ones around, if you check.
Manhattan is NOT all expensive -there's plenty of great things to do and see, as well as to eat, for reasonable prices - cheap even - if you know where to go - as the locals do (like me)
Brooklyn is NOT for the faint of heart - especially after dark - and since it closes down virtually all over around 8 p.m. - not a good recommendation unless someone is accompanying the person and they know exactly where they are and where they are going - Brooklyn Heights is a neighborhood - where a person might find good views is something one might have difficulty with finding upon first arrival - and one can just walk across the Brooklyn Bridge for that matter - but again, it's pretty difficult when one doesn't know one's way around.
as for not many museums or not as touristy - clearly you haven't been to the Brooklyn Museum - and as for not as touristy - there really isn't any part of nyc that ISN'T touristy - it's pretty much taken over everywhere by tourists.
and why would you call Times Square a dump? I mean, really? it's a great place to see at night - why else would Nasdaq, various news orgs, MTV, various clubs, Broadway shows, the Ed Sullivan Theater (down the street (it's where Letterman's show is) and a host of other places be there? I used to work there - in the Morgan Stanley building - don't think they'd still be dropping the ball there on New Year's Eve amongst 2 million people if it was considered a dump.
if anything, it's a tourist trap - full of people from all over looking at people from - all over -
then you mention the Village - yet if anything - that's where most of the suburban yuppies go on the weekend to gawk hoping to see a couple of guys holding hands or kiss or something - most everyone else heads out for nightlife elsewhere.
the Lower East Side - yes, there are a lot of artists who live there and street art is around - but it's virtually everywhere in nyc - one just has to open one's eyes to it - that's what's so great about it - but again - to tell someone to go to the LES w/o specific directions - that's just plain arrogant - but then - so are most of the suburbanites who flock into Manhattan just to hang out and rag on it but never stick around long enough to understand the city and the people who make it work. |
Brooklyn's not for the faint of heart? Haha....
But according to you, it's overrun by tourists....
Stop being an azz. Brooklyn is a lovely place to go, if you haven't been watching too much Law and Order and aren't afraid of black people. If you're someone who expects every black man under the age of thirty to try to rob you at gunpoint, then no, you probably would not enjoy yourself there. I lived there as a young single woman for five years in what others considered to be quite "dodgy" neighborhoods, and was never harassed one single time, although I wandered around all over the place at all hours of the night alone. If you get lost, you can always stop in a bodega and ask for directions -- people are almost always more than willing to help you out.
And I'm sure the OP is well traveled enough to take a neighborhood name and google and sort out how he would get to/if he would like to go to that neighborhood or not.
I do recommend getting to Brooklyn if you have the time. It's got a much more relaxed, neighborhoody vibe. And it is cheaper than Manhattan -- that's just a fact. Of course, with two days, you could probably stay quite busy in Manhattan alone.
And Time Square is a dump. It's fantastic to see -- that's true. But if you don't have a load of cash and time to buy tickets for something or another, just pop above ground, get a cup of coffee, walk around, and then get back on the subway. Don't bother trying to find something to do.
As for getting to New York Proper from Newark, it's a pain, but it is possible to do on NJ transit for around fifteen bucks and 45 minutes to an hour, depending on where you're headed. |
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bucheon bum
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| Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:11 pm Post subject: Re: Need some tips on traveling to NYC |
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| moosehead wrote: |
wow - there are so many - hmm - errors here - |
Well you do have that right.
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| once more, hostels in nyc are NOT a good idea - I've known people who stayed there and said they were dirty, scary and difficult to rest in - think about it - cheap housing in one of the most expensive cities in the world - who is it going to attract? be safe, be secure - stay in a hotel - there really are less expensive ones around, if you check. |
As someone who has actually stayed in hostels in NYC, I can vouch that they are as safe as any other city in the world. There are crappy ones and decent ones.
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| Manhattan is NOT all expensive -there's plenty of great things to do and see, as well as to eat, for reasonable prices - cheap even - if you know where to go - as the locals do (like me) |
Well to some degree, yes. Cheap food in Chinatown. Food vendors are cheap. Obviously the Met can be done for free and parks obviously don't cost anything. Staten Island Ferry=free way to see NY harbor.
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| Brooklyn is NOT for the faint of heart - especially after dark - and since it closes down virtually all over around 8 p.m. - not a good recommendation unless someone is accompanying the person and they know exactly where they are and where they are going - Brooklyn Heights is a neighborhood - where a person might find good views is something one might have difficulty with finding upon first arrival - and one can just walk across the Brooklyn Bridge for that matter - but again, it's pretty difficult when one doesn't know one's way around. |
Now this is where you really go off the deep end. Two other people have corrected you in your gross generalization.
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| the Lower East Side - yes, there are a lot of artists who live there and street art is around - but it's virtually everywhere in nyc - one just has to open one's eyes to it - that's what's so great about it - but again - to tell someone to go to the LES w/o specific directions - that's just plain arrogant - but then - so are most of the suburbanites who flock into Manhattan just to hang out and rag on it but never stick around long enough to understand the city and the people who make it work. |
Why don't you just admit you haven't been to NYC in ages? |
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pkang0202
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| Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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I'll be staying in NYC for 3 days, 2 nights.
Day 1:
Sightsee the major tourist attractions
Night 1: Rest in the Hotel
Day 2:
Shopping, sightseeing popular stores
Night 2: See a broadway musical
Day 3:
Wake up early and go to the airport.
I don't mind paying a little extra money in order to get a place in Manhattan if it means I don't have to worry about transportation. |
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