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bogey666
Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone
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 Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:48 am Post subject: get ready for 30% teacher turnover come March 1 |
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My VP told me today every teacher is trying to transfer out of our school.
I guess today was the day they had to enter their requests to GEPIK HQ via computer.
LOL
I told him it's his fault... or in the case of my co-teachers.. mine.
we had a good laugh.
but I'm not happy with this change. I get along splendidly with my coordinator who sits next to me, and the other female Korean teachers seated around me.
If I get some of the freak problem co-teachers some other teachers complain about, there will be trouble 
well at least I'm tight with the VP, who's not leaving, which means I'll be very hard to mess with.
but this change I think will kinda suck. |
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Kimchieluver
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:53 am Post subject: |
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| Sometimes it is not the VP/P, it is the city or the area. At one of my smaller cities I worked at, 90% of the teachers wanted to get out of there ASAP just so they could be closer to home. |
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sojourner1
Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
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| Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:48 am Post subject: |
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| Oh right, we PS teachers should expect to meet our new Korean co-teachers when we start on March 2nd. That ought to be quite interesting and frustrating at the same time. |
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bogey666
Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone
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| Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Kimchieluver wrote: |
| Sometimes it is not the VP/P, it is the city or the area. At one of my smaller cities I worked at, 90% of the teachers wanted to get out of there ASAP just so they could be closer to home. |
yup spot on.
in my case it's also that the students are difficult to deal with and of low level.
VP also said that all the female teachers are trying to transfer to middle schools.
I asked why?
the answer is because in middle schools there are no after school programs which exist in high schools that teachers are required to teach.
I said if I were a Korean teacher male or female I'd do the same! LOL |
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ardis
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Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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| bogey666 wrote: |
| Kimchieluver wrote: |
| Sometimes it is not the VP/P, it is the city or the area. At one of my smaller cities I worked at, 90% of the teachers wanted to get out of there ASAP just so they could be closer to home. |
yup spot on.
in my case it's also that the students are difficult to deal with and of low level.
VP also said that all the female teachers are trying to transfer to middle schools.
I asked why?
the answer is because in middle schools there are no after school programs which exist in high schools that teachers are required to teach.
I said if I were a Korean teacher male or female I'd do the same! LOL |
But...there are! There are constantly after school classes going on at my middle school that the teachers are required to work. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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| ardis wrote: |
| bogey666 wrote: |
| Kimchieluver wrote: |
| Sometimes it is not the VP/P, it is the city or the area. At one of my smaller cities I worked at, 90% of the teachers wanted to get out of there ASAP just so they could be closer to home. |
yup spot on.
in my case it's also that the students are difficult to deal with and of low level.
VP also said that all the female teachers are trying to transfer to middle schools.
I asked why?
the answer is because in middle schools there are no after school programs which exist in high schools that teachers are required to teach.
I said if I were a Korean teacher male or female I'd do the same! LOL |
But...there are! There are constantly after school classes going on at my middle school that the teachers are required to work. |
Yeah, but they don't have to supervise study hall until 10 or 11PM. |
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bogey666
Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone
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| Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| ardis wrote: |
| bogey666 wrote: |
| Kimchieluver wrote: |
| Sometimes it is not the VP/P, it is the city or the area. At one of my smaller cities I worked at, 90% of the teachers wanted to get out of there ASAP just so they could be closer to home. |
yup spot on.
in my case it's also that the students are difficult to deal with and of low level.
VP also said that all the female teachers are trying to transfer to middle schools.
I asked why?
the answer is because in middle schools there are no after school programs which exist in high schools that teachers are required to teach.
I said if I were a Korean teacher male or female I'd do the same! LOL |
But...there are! There are constantly after school classes going on at my middle school that the teachers are required to work. |
Yeah, but they don't have to supervise study hall until 10 or 11PM. |
Christ, that is just effing INSANE |
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espoir
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Incheon, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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I am sooooo looking foreward to the turnover come March. The teachers I dont get along with are all leaving, while the ones I'm friends with and actually hang out with outside of school are staying 
Now I just hope that they leave, because I heard some of them mention the other day they were reconsidering I just hope its something like cold feet and they get going as fast as possible, because I know I sure wont miss them. |
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nobbyken
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| Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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At my last school, 8/24 teachers left. The VP announced his departure on the evening of the farewell meal we had.
Met the new teachers in the spring semester of 7 (half?)days.
The new English teacher was an older maturer woman, probably mid 30s and would have been OK for the next years NS. |
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bogey666
Joined: 17 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:23 am Post subject: |
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| nobbyken wrote: |
At my last school, 8/24 teachers left. The VP announced his departure on the evening of the farewell meal we had.
Met the new teachers in the spring semester of 7 (half?)days.
The new English teacher was an older maturer woman, probably mid 30s and would have been OK for the next years NS. |
I think the turnover cannot exceed 30-33% or so. The less seniority you have, the less likely you'll be allowed to transfer.
which kind of makes sense (it's all determined by GEPIK bureaucrats)
it'd be quite difficult to completely flip a staff and have at least some measure of continuity. |
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Draz
Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam
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| Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:33 am Post subject: |
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| bogey666 wrote: |
| nobbyken wrote: |
At my last school, 8/24 teachers left. The VP announced his departure on the evening of the farewell meal we had.
Met the new teachers in the spring semester of 7 (half?)days.
The new English teacher was an older maturer woman, probably mid 30s and would have been OK for the next years NS. |
I think the turnover cannot exceed 30-33% or so. The less seniority you have, the less likely you'll be allowed to transfer.
which kind of makes sense (it's all determined by GEPIK bureaucrats)
it'd be quite difficult to completely flip a staff and have at least some measure of continuity. |
Young/newer teachers are stuck working in crapholes in the middle of nowhere and older teachers are in bigger cities. Need someone even younger and newer than you to take the job before they'll let you leave.
At the school I was at (through EPIK), I think they let the Korean teachers transfer out after two years. Most of them were very new, and not happy about where they'd been assigned to work. Just like me. Haha.
It's not GEPIK that does it though, GEPIK only deals with the native teachers. |
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bogey666
Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone
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| Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 2:57 am Post subject: |
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| Draz wrote: |
| bogey666 wrote: |
| nobbyken wrote: |
At my last school, 8/24 teachers left. The VP announced his departure on the evening of the farewell meal we had.
Met the new teachers in the spring semester of 7 (half?)days.
The new English teacher was an older maturer woman, probably mid 30s and would have been OK for the next years NS. |
I think the turnover cannot exceed 30-33% or so. The less seniority you have, the less likely you'll be allowed to transfer.
which kind of makes sense (it's all determined by GEPIK bureaucrats)
it'd be quite difficult to completely flip a staff and have at least some measure of continuity. |
Young/newer teachers are stuck working in crapholes in the middle of nowhere and older teachers are in bigger cities. Need someone even younger and newer than you to take the job before they'll let you leave.
At the school I was at (through EPIK), I think they let the Korean teachers transfer out after two years. Most of them were very new, and not happy about where they'd been assigned to work. Just like me. Haha.
It's not GEPIK that does it though, GEPIK only deals with the native teachers. |
I was told it's done by the Gyonggi - Do Ministry or Office of Education. |
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sojusucks
Joined: 31 May 2008
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| Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:09 pm Post subject: Re: get ready for 30% teacher turnover come March 1 |
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| bogey666 wrote: |
My VP told me today every teacher is trying to transfer out of our school.
I guess today was the day they had to enter their requests to GEPIK HQ via computer.
LOL
I told him it's his fault... or in the case of my co-teachers.. mine.
we had a good laugh.
but I'm not happy with this change. I get along splendidly with my coordinator who sits next to me, and the other female Korean teachers seated around me.
If I get some of the freak problem co-teachers some other teachers complain about, there will be trouble
well at least I'm tight with the VP, who's not leaving, which means I'll be very hard to mess with.
but this change I think will kinda suck. |
Why do the Korean teachers want to leave? That is quite odd indeed.
The main thing is that you are treated well, paid, and your contract is followed. |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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No teachers are leaving my school this year.
However, next year 65% of the teachers will leave, plus the VP and maybe the principal. |
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bogey666
Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone
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| Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
No teachers are leaving my school this year.
However, next year 65% of the teachers will leave, plus the VP and maybe the principal. |
you may want to recheck that.
I was told that no more than 30% or so can leave in any given year. (vp and principal may be different) |
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