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living alone and the (irrational?) fear of commitment
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dharma bum



Joined: 15 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:35 am    Post subject: living alone and the (irrational?) fear of commitment Reply with quote

well, i'm at a bit of a turning point in my life, to put it lightly. although i like to live an independent existence and have a certain amount of freedom in my life, i've entered into a fairly deep relationship with someone over the last year and a half.

now, while i love her greatly, feel i can talk to her about anything and everything, and can imagine years of comfortable cohabitation with this person, when i think about getting married, i am not enthralled by the life i imagine. i like the idea of spending my life with someone i love and having a special connection with another human being, but at the same time, i don't think our connection's perfect (even though i'm closer to her than i think i ever will be to anyone else) and i continue to have feelings of wanting to roam around and live my life free and alone (have a lot of experiences and "do my own thang," if you will).

with that said, i am also plagued by the fear of losing the only person i've ever loved (not counting family), which will almost certainly happen if i say i don't want to get married- especially as (very tentative) wedding talks/plans are already in the works. basically, i have a case of the pre-pre-wedding jitters and am attracted to the idea of being on my own in life again. at the same time, i worry that, if i give in to these "jitters," i will be condemning myself to an endless string of meaningless dating and pointless relationships (which is what i had before this relationship) and that sooner or later i will realize that living independently is a bottomless pit of loneliness and wish i had married the one person i connected with when i could. (i'm not saying this is true about being single forever - it's just a deep fear i have...)

now, i know all of the typical advice concerning this situation - don't marry if you don't feel its 100% right, don't marry someone you can live with; marry someone you can't live without, it's not fair to marry her if you're not sure (which is true enough!), etc. - but what i'm truly looking for is anecdotal evidence here, especially from the more senior members of the board who have lived through a number of relationships and reached an age where they might have a better perspective on what it's like to live life both with someone and alone.

so...
firstly, for those of you who have walked away from a relationship with someone you love(d) to pursue something or to satisfy a need for independence and to roam, have you regretted it and are you happy with your decision to live single rather than tie the knot?

and then, for those of you who have had that loner's urge to do this but married the person you love(d) anyway, how did it turn out? were you happy? unhappy? did the urge to roam eventually overwhelm you to the point of giving up on the relationship later on or did that urge just disappear only to be replaced by a sense of contentment (maybe i'm dreaming with that one?)?

i'd really appreciate any advice people can offer about this. i know we have a wide variety of people who have come from all walks of life on this board, so i'm looking forward to the stories to be honest - while also, of course, hoping that they will help me work through this decision in my life.

side note: i have tried to talk to my significant other about this before anyone talks about my not talking to her about it even though i say we can talk about anything.
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tacon101



Joined: 31 Oct 2005
Location: seoul

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

do you have to get married?

if you're thinking of other women or think you'd cheat on her, don't marry her doofus

if you're just worried it won't last forever but you think it'll last a really long time then only marry her if you think you won't get divorced until your kids are grown up

there's no sense in wasting money on a marriage that you think will fizzle out. just be companions for a while
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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A fear of commitment is not irrational.
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Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:34 am    Post subject: Re: living alone and the (irrational?) fear of commitment Reply with quote

dharma bum wrote:

so...
firstly, for those of you who have walked away from a relationship with someone you love(d) to pursue something or to satisfy a need for independence and to roam, have you regretted it and are you happy with your decision to live single rather than tie the knot?


I guess this is what my ex did. I don't think he regrets it. Though the fact that I would take him back now (more than two years later) might make a difference in that, I don't know. I don't think he'd regret it anyway, really. I'll have to ask him about this.

He told me last week that he has been fantasizing about "settling down and starting a family" which made me Shocked. Maybe it's my turn to run. Smile
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yawarakaijin



Joined: 08 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I understand where you are coming from. In my mid 20's I couldn't wait to get married. If any of my relationships at that time had progessed to that point I wouldn't have had a second thought.

Now in my mid 30's things are really starting to look differently. I have a job I love, a salary that keeps me more than happy and still quite a few adventures I haven't embarked on yet. Every year since I hit 30 and continue to run into those dammed birthdays every once in a while my desire to marry has fallen proportionately. While I am not dating anyone seriously at the moment I have to say that getting married would be an incredibly tough call at the moment.

When I'm single, I'm often wishing I had that someone special but once I meet that person I have to admit that it doesn't take long to start feeling penned in. Suddenly I can no longer spend my time the way I like, I can't spend my money the way I like, I can't take a vacation where I like. It's quite frustrating if I am to be honest.

Perhaps I haven't met that woman who makes me want to sacrifice everything in my life for her. Perhaps I haven't met that woman who is comfortable enough to let me be myself and yet still maintain a relationship. It's a tough call really.

I do have to say this though. The majority of Asian women I have neared that point with tended to have a very rigid idea of what married life is supposed to be. Primarily being me working my ass off and giving her my entire paycheque so she can run things at home. Gotta say it doesn't quite do it for me.

My advice man, play it safe. I believe accepting your doom to remain single Wink is far more honorable than possibly bringing a child into this world that you are unwilling or unable to devote 100% of your energy to.
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Cheonmunka



Joined: 04 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How old are you?
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Rae



Joined: 10 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:27 am    Post subject: Re: living alone and the (irrational?) fear of commitment Reply with quote

Draz wrote:


I guess this is what my ex did. I don't think he regrets it. Though the fact that I would take him back now (more than two years later) might make a difference in that, I don't know. I don't think he'd regret it anyway, really. I'll have to ask him about this.

He told me last week that he has been fantasizing about "settling down and starting a family" which made me Shocked. Maybe it's my turn to run. Smile


I know this is off topic but I just had to say, "Congratulations!" I love hearing about couples reuniting ^_____^
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Easter Clark



Joined: 18 Nov 2007
Location: Hiding from Yie Eun-woong

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No relationship is perfect. The question is, can the two of you live with those imperfections?
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KirbyMagnus



Joined: 05 Apr 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make a choice:

1) Marry a girl when you are at or around the peak of your attractiveness. A man is only as loyal as his options, be certain that the woman you are with is the best you can get.

2) Wait till after you peak has passed and settle for the best you can get.

The difference being is that in 1 you are the one taking the initiative and not hoping a woman takes pity on you. That said if you choose 1... how can you be certain a better woman isn't going to come along?
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tacon101



Joined: 31 Oct 2005
Location: seoul

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KirbyMagnus wrote:
Make a choice:

1) Marry a girl when you are at or around the peak of your attractiveness. A man is only as loyal as his options, be certain that the woman you are with is the best you can get.

2) Wait till after you peak has passed and settle for the best you can get.

The difference being is that in 1 you are the one taking the initiative and not hoping a woman takes pity on you. That said if you choose 1... how can you be certain a better woman isn't going to come along?


eww #1 is repulsive. a man is only as loyal as his options? the best you can get? jeez if THAT is why you get married then that's just terrible and i'd be surprised if it stayed together happily

i'm not a fan of marriage, but i do believe it should be done for the right reasons (bad reasons waste money of friends and family, cause undue stress, and devalue statistics). marrying your best offer seems pathetic and rude to whomever you're marrying regardless of love or no love.

it's not like you have to grab the best fruit you see off the market table just because you're afraid someone else will get to it first...
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Panda



Joined: 25 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my friend's parents has been together for 30 years, but they never got married.

Another my friend got married this summer and a big D one month later.

The marriage certificate is nothing but a piece of paper.