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Geckoman
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 Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:09 am Post subject: Queen Suspends Canadian Parliament! |
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Queen Suspends Canadian Parliament!
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE4B34BC20081204
So much for Canada being a sovereign country. It was always a British colony all along.
Having meet a lot of Canadians here in Korea, I�ve talked to a number of them about the Queen�s awesome power over Canada and they always say that the Queen would never intervene in Canada�s democratic process in this day and age even though the Queen technically can. But they were all wrong! 
My sympathies to the Canadian people for having an undemocratically elected monarch intervene in their democratically election government.
However, it could be worse. In this Canadian case the Queen has only �suspended� the government, rather than �dismiss� the government.
In 1975 she did dismiss Australia�s parliament. How sad that was. Read about it here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_constitutional_crisis_of_1975
I would like to someday see Canada and Australia as well as New Zealand become totally free from the British monarchy�s reign.
What exactly the benefits of being a monarch's subject and a colony of the United Kingdom are beats me.
Free Canada!
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oldtactics
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| Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:22 am Post subject: |
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The Queen didn't "intervene" into anything - The Prime Minister approached the Governor General and requested that Parliament be prorogued, and she decided to grant his request - The Queen had nothing to do with the decision and wasn't contacted, nor is she ever contacted in cases like these.
That said, thanks for your sympathies about the undemocratically elected representative, I'm not happy about that either. |
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mithridates
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| Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:30 am Post subject: |
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| This prorogation is hilarious because all of a sudden Liberal and NDP supporters are talking like the Reform Party of old. Independent republic! Elected Governor General! Next up will be the triple-E senate. There are 18 Senate seats to fill and though Harper doesn't want to fill them on principle, if he's about to be kicked out he could easily appoint a huge number of senators before he goes, who would be there until they reach the age of 75. |
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Big_Bird
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| Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:31 am Post subject: |
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| Exactly. The Queen is not interfering. I doubt she gives a hoot about the Canadian parliament. The same as in 1975. It was not the Queen that did anything, it was Australia's Governer General, acting in the Queen's name. |
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aarontendo
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| Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:25 am Post subject: |
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If they're doing it in the place of the Queen, then they are by proxy doing it for her though right? She certainly didn't do it directly but her office did in these cases.
In any event, good to see some of the heat taken off Bush...looks like the real dictators are up North and across the Atlantic! |
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:49 am Post subject: |
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| aarontendo wrote: |
If they're doing it in the place of the Queen, then they are by proxy doing it for her though right? She certainly didn't do it directly but her office did in these cases.
In any event, good to see some of the heat taken off Bush...looks like the real dictators are up North and across the Atlantic! |
To use a rough comparison, the Queen prorogating parliament is like the president of a univeristy putting his signature on a diploma. If you think some particular student really didn't deserve his degree, you don't blame the president. It is generally understood that the president is dutybound to sign the diploma after the student is approved for graduation by his professors and faculty chairs.
There are a lot of things you could tear into the smug Canadian crowd over. This is not one of them. |
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:54 am Post subject: |
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| mithridates wrote: |
| This prorogation is hilarious because all of a sudden Liberal and NDP supporters are talking like the Reform Party of old. Independent republic! Elected Governor General! Next up will be the triple-E senate. |
Also, funny to see the right-wingers suddenly finding an ally in the French-speaking, quasi-separatist, black, female, Morgentaler-loving Governor-General. |
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mithridates
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| Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:34 am Post subject: |
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| On the other hand wrote: |
| mithridates wrote: |
| This prorogation is hilarious because all of a sudden Liberal and NDP supporters are talking like the Reform Party of old. Independent republic! Elected Governor General! Next up will be the triple-E senate. |
Also, funny to see the right-wingers suddenly finding an ally in the French-speaking, quasi-separatist, black, female, Morgentaler-loving Governor-General. |
Don't forget chosen by a Liberal prime minister. |
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Frankly Mr Shankly
Joined: 13 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:24 am Post subject: Re: Queen Suspends Canadian Parliament! |
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| Geckoman wrote: |
| [b][size=18]aargle baaargle froth foam futumtch |
Wow, you make Itaewon guy look like a mental giant. How does that dirt taste, btw? |
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joshuahirtle27
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| Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:01 am Post subject: |
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| The Queen of England could give two shits about Canada. We're under Monatchic rule by title only. The Queen doesn't have any real power in Canada. |
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:03 am Post subject: |
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| mithridates wrote: |
| On the other hand wrote: |
| mithridates wrote: |
| This prorogation is hilarious because all of a sudden Liberal and NDP supporters are talking like the Reform Party of old. Independent republic! Elected Governor General! Next up will be the triple-E senate. |
Also, funny to see the right-wingers suddenly finding an ally in the French-speaking, quasi-separatist, black, female, Morgentaler-loving Governor-General. |
Don't forget chosen by a Liberal prime minister. |
You know, I WAS going to edit that in, but I had to get back to work. |
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Kuros
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| Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Big_Bird wrote: |
| Exactly. The Queen is not interfering. I doubt she gives a hoot about the Canadian parliament. The same as in 1975. It was not the Queen that did anything, it was Australia's Governer General, acting in the Queen's name. |
This is true. As much as I'd like to troll on the Commonwealthers in this thread, dissolving (?) parliament here doesn't seem like a bad move. |
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mises
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| Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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| On the other hand wrote: |
| mithridates wrote: |
| This prorogation is hilarious because all of a sudden Liberal and NDP supporters are talking like the Reform Party of old. Independent republic! Elected Governor General! Next up will be the triple-E senate. |
Also, funny to see the right-wingers suddenly finding an ally in the French-speaking, quasi-separatist, black, female, Morgentaler-loving Governor-General. |
As funny as it is to see (as you pointed out) the mutli-culty Liberals finding an ally in the death-to-multiculty, unilingual bloc. |
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mises
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| Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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double post. damn macs
Last edited by mises on Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:26 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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joshuahirtle27
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| Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Kuros wrote: |
| Big_Bird wrote: |
| Exactly. The Queen is not interfering. I doubt she gives a hoot about the Canadian parliament. The same as in 1975. It was not the Queen that did anything, it was Australia's Governer General, acting in the Queen's name. |
This is true. As much as I'd like to troll on the Commonwealthers in this thread, dissolving (?) parliament here doesn't seem like a bad move. |
Yeah... a Governor General is like a drunk babysitter. She doesn't really give a damn what you do as long as you don't tell anyone she's also doing dick all. It's just a formality to ask to dissolve Parliament. Maybe it's that one little step that makes PM's think twice before doing so. Sort of like, "Awe hell, I have to go talk to what's her face". |
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