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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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blade
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 Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:59 am Post subject: Re: GBI Successfully Kills Inbound ICBM In Landmark Test |
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This is not good news. MAD depends on each nuclear power fearing reprisals from the other if they were reckless enough to launch an attack on the other. Of course Russia, China and India will now be more determined than ever to come up with a game changer of their own. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 7:48 am Post subject: Re: GBI Successfully Kills Inbound ICBM In Landmark Test |
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| blade wrote: |
This is not good news. MAD depends on each nuclear power fearing reprisals from the other if they were reckless enough to launch an attack on the other. Of course Russia, China and India will now be more determined than ever to come up with a game changer of their own. |
US missile defense is not aimed at Russia or China.
India doesn't care about US missile defense anyway. Russia and China and a lot of nations at the US like the idea of the US being vunerable to Iran or North Korea.
It is great news, except for those who want to see Iran with the ability to hit the US.
The US doesn't have to allow Iran the right to be able to threaten the US. No how , no way. The US doesn't owe Iran or anyone else that. |
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blade
Joined: 30 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:33 am Post subject: Re: GBI Successfully Kills Inbound ICBM In Landmark Test |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| blade wrote: |
This is not good news. MAD depends on each nuclear power fearing reprisals from the other if they were reckless enough to launch an attack on the other. Of course Russia, China and India will now be more determined than ever to come up with a game changer of their own. |
US missile defense is not aimed at Russia or China.
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Of course it's not it's a missile defense system but that's not the point. The point of the system is to protect the US and it's allies against intercontinental missiles from who ever fires them. The Iranians nor the North Koreans simply haven't the capability to attack the US missile defense shield or not.
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India doesn't care about US missile defense anyway. Russia and China and a lot of nations at the US like the idea of the US being vunerable to Iran or North Korea. |
I'm sorry but you have no clue to what Russia, China or anyone else for that matter so please stop pretending that you have. |
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cheeseface
Joined: 13 Jan 2008
Location: Ssyangnyeon Shi
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| Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:46 am Post subject: Re: GBI Successfully Kills Inbound ICBM In Landmark Test |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| blade wrote: |
This is not good news. MAD depends on each nuclear power fearing reprisals from the other if they were reckless enough to launch an attack on the other. Of course Russia, China and India will now be more determined than ever to come up with a game changer of their own. |
US missile defense is not aimed at Russia or China.
India doesn't care about US missile defense anyway. Russia and China and a lot of nations at the US like the idea of the US being vunerable to Iran or North Korea.
It is great news, except for those who want to see Iran with the ability to hit the US.
The US doesn't have to allow Iran the right to be able to threaten the US. No how , no way. The US doesn't owe Iran or anyone else that. |
You really think the missile defense is only aimed at Iran? Wow you really are ignorant.
If Iran tried any shit outside the ME the US would kick their arses. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:57 am Post subject: Re: GBI Successfully Kills Inbound ICBM In Landmark Test |
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| blade wrote: |
This is not good news. MAD depends on each nuclear power fearing reprisals from the other if they were reckless enough to launch an attack on the other. Of course Russia, China and India will now be more determined than ever to come up with a game changer of their own. |
It is great news. Russia and China can still annihilate American cities with ease, and MAD is far from extinction. This tech only gives countries like Japan and Germany, you know, the non-nuclear powers, defenses against a rogue regime like North Korea or a potential rogue Iran. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Russia and China can still annihilate American cities with ease... |
Where are you getting your information on Russian and Chinese nuclear-weapons capability? |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| Kuros wrote: |
| Russia and China can still annihilate American cities with ease... |
Where are you getting your information on Russian and Chinese nuclear-weapons capability? |
Well lets stick with Russia for now. They certainly have the capabilities to destroy the US.
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Russia's ICBM capabilities are only expanding.
Of course, Russia's SLBMs alone could set the US back to the stone-age. There's little a missile shield can do against a submarine parked 100 miles off the continental shelf of the US homeland.
Its worth noting that of the three nations, the US is the only one that has not ruled out a nuclear first-strike.
And as to Blade's assertion that Joo cannot know what Russia thinks, we can know what Russia says publicly:
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While Ivanov's assertion about missile defense penetration was clearly aimed at the United States - and at Russians who will vote in March for a successor to Putin - he suggested Russia's armament efforts were also aimed to counter a potential treat from the Middle East and Asia.
"We see perfectly how our eastern and southern neighbors here, there and everywhere are acquiring short and medium-range missiles," Ivanov said in televised comments at Kapustin Yar, the southern Russian site where the tactical missiles were tested.
Ivanov said the 1987 Soviet-American treaty limiting such missiles - the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces treaty, or INF - is no longer effective because "dozens of countries - many of them along our borders - have acquired them. All of this is a real danger for us, and the consequences can be unpredictable." |
Here's an informative map of China's nuclear capabilities. It could only get maybe a dozen and a half missiles to anywhere within the Continental US, but it could send its JL-2s to targets on the West Coast. |
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