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Should I move to Korea or Tokyo?
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kentucker4



Joined: 03 Sep 2007
Location: Georgia

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:09 am    Post subject: Should I move to Korea or Tokyo? Reply with quote

I am thinking about taking a break from my wife...mutual agreement....and quiting my newspaper job in a few more months and teaching English in Tokyo or Korea. Small town newspaper = hell. Seriously, in my limited experience, Korean hagwons have nothing on this profession.

I'm not too concerned about saving up money, just to have enough to live a comfortable lifestyle including going out on the weekends. If you were in my position, which would you choose?


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bogey666



Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:12 am    Post subject: Re: Should I move to Japan or Tokyo Reply with quote

kentucker4 wrote:
I am thinking about taking a break from my wife...mutual agreement....and quiting my newspaper job in a few more months and teaching English in Tokyo or Korea. Small town newspaper = hell. Seriously, in my limited experience, Korean hagwons have nothing on this profession.

I'm not too concerned about saving up money, just to have enough to live a comfortable lifestyle including going out on the weekends. If you were in my position, which would you choose?


correct your subject because it makes you sound like an idiot.
(look at it)

comfortable lifestyle including going out would probably rule out Tokyo, don't you think?

maybe try Dok-do. It'll be cheap and you won't have to make the decision between Korea and Japan Very Happy
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kentucker4



Joined: 03 Sep 2007
Location: Georgia

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:14 am    Post subject: Re: Should I move to Japan or Tokyo Reply with quote

bogey666 wrote:
kentucker4 wrote:
I am thinking about taking a break from my wife...mutual agreement....and quiting my newspaper job in a few more months and teaching English in Tokyo or Korea. Small town newspaper = hell. Seriously, in my limited experience, Korean hagwons have nothing on this profession.

I'm not too concerned about saving up money, just to have enough to live a comfortable lifestyle including going out on the weekends. If you were in my position, which would you choose?


correct your subject because it makes you sound like an idiot.
(look at it)

comfortable lifestyle including going out would probably rule out Tokyo, don't you think?

maybe Dok-do.


Too expensive? I really just need to make enough to eat and go out on the weekends. I'm not much of a shopper.
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bogey666



Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:17 am    Post subject: Re: Should I move to Japan or Tokyo Reply with quote

kentucker4 wrote:
bogey666 wrote:
kentucker4 wrote:
I am thinking about taking a break from my wife...mutual agreement....and quiting my newspaper job in a few more months and teaching English in Tokyo or Korea. Small town newspaper = hell. Seriously, in my limited experience, Korean hagwons have nothing on this profession.

I'm not too concerned about saving up money, just to have enough to live a comfortable lifestyle including going out on the weekends. If you were in my position, which would you choose?


correct your subject because it makes you sound like an idiot.
(look at it)

comfortable lifestyle including going out would probably rule out Tokyo, don't you think?

maybe Dok-do.


Too expensive? I really just need to make enough to eat and go out on the weekends. I'm not much of a shopper.


get a Japanese expat to talk to you about cost of things in Tokyo. My understanding is it's SKY high.... just taking a cab to go clubbing will set you back big.
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madoka



Joined: 27 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:41 am    Post subject: Re: Should I move to Japan or Tokyo Reply with quote

bogey666 wrote:
correct your subject because it makes you sound like an idiot.


Bogey666, do you not realize that this is K4? This guy is the most entertaining poster here, so leave him be!
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Ruraljuror



Joined: 08 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aren't you scared of running into your high-level gangster father in law if you come to Korea? Or bumping into Bigfoot again? Or UFO's?

I'd say Korea is just too dangerous for you right now.

Go to Japan, but definitely keep us posted on your adventures there, as I'm sure you will become a massive pop star, hang out with ninja's, and meet Godzilla once after a night of drinking.
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do a year in Japan, save up all the yen you can, then make a transition to Korea somewhere down the line when the won straightens out.

If you have a degree in jounralism, you might want to angle for editor jobs at banks or financial houses in Seoul. The pay has gone down a bit, but they are still worth a shot and at least in line with your career track.

If you have your MA, try for a university job in Korea or Japan. They're tougher to get in Japan, but I'd suggest trying there first. Forget bigger city universities in both countries if you don't have the MA. This is a generalization, of course, but tends to ring true. If you're just getting away from the wife, who cares where you are?
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crusher_of_heads



Joined: 23 Feb 2007
Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have no wife.

You have no life.

You are sad.
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Trevor



Joined: 16 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I spent a little time looking at the Japan discussion forum. They all say uni's in Japan look for publications, Japanese fluency and Japanese experience. It's possible, though. Lots of wet blankets on that forum, so you might want to strike out on your own.

For a new guy looking for a quick year off from his Korean-mafia-princess wife (heh-heh) I would definitely suggest a public school gig as your safest bet. The public school jobs generally receive the highest average satisfaction rate and they are easy to get.

PRagic wrote:
Do a year in Japan, save up all the yen you can, then make a transition to Korea somewhere down the line when the won straightens out.

If you have a degree in jounralism, you might want to angle for editor jobs at banks or financial houses in Seoul. The pay has gone down a bit, but they are still worth a shot and at least in line with your career track.

If you have your MA, try for a university job in Korea or Japan. They're tougher to get in Japan, but I'd suggest trying there first. Forget bigger city universities in both countries if you don't have the MA. This is a generalization, of course, but tends to ring true. If you're just getting away from the wife, who cares where you are?
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jadarite



Joined: 01 Sep 2007
Location: Andong, Yeongyang, Seoul, now Pyeongtaek

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you go to Japan, you'll probably spend more. If you work in Korea, save up, then when the exchange rate becomes more favorable you can transfer the money. The food is better in Korea, with the exception of a few dishes and green tea.
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I_Am_The_Kiwi



Joined: 10 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you been to Japan before?

Id say GO TO JAPAN. Its NOT as expensive as people make it out to be, and once your earning YEN youll be fine. Also with the Japanese VISA you can teach privates on the side LEGALLY.

Japan has SOOO much more to offer than Korea. Youve already done Korea - mix it up a little!
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Pooty



Joined: 15 Jun 2008
Location: Ela stin agalia mou

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PRagic wrote:

[snip]If you have a degree in jounralism[snip]


I've always wanted a degree in jounralism, but jounralism requires a lot of confidence in yourself as a writer, which I've never really had. Then again if I was a jounralist, I'd probably have a chance to travel more and hang out with other jounralists in 3rd world countries, war zones, and interesting places, drink whiskey in jounralist bars, and have the time of my life.

Ah to be a jounralist, that would be the life for me. Razz Very Happy Laughing




okay, okay I know it was nerdy...but I've never seen you spell ANYTHING wrong in 3-4 years!
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loose_ends



Joined: 23 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I_Am_The_Kiwi wrote:
Have you been to Japan before?

Id say GO TO JAPAN. Its NOT as expensive as people make it out to be, and once your earning YEN youll be fine. Also with the Japanese VISA you can teach privates on the side LEGALLY.

Japan has SOOO much more to offer than Korea. Youve already done Korea - mix it up a little!


I second this post.
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greekvvedge



Joined: 19 Jun 2007
Location: Apkujeong

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Japan Japan JAPAN.

You don't have to do Tokyo, really. Anyways, going there isn't really much more expensive than Gangnam (I'm willing to bet its about the same nowadays- I mean, Hynduai apartments in Gangnam is 3-5 million dollars).

You can go to Hokkaido, or Kobe, Osaka, etc. Cheaper and still offers more than Korea. Do it.
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd suggest OSAKA.

Tokyo is very spread out, takes forever to get places, and yes taxis and subways are expensive if you go out a lot.

Osaka is significantly more condensed and the nightlife area is crazy and fun much like Seoul. But you are dealing with Japanese people, who are very pleasant to be around.
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