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Bucheonguy



Joined: 23 Oct 2008
Location: Bucheon

PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:15 pm    Post subject: Winter camp distress Reply with quote

I was just wondering what it's like for all of you. They want me to teach 3 hours a day. 2 for the students and 1 for the teachers. Teachers in the morning 9am-10am and students from 2pm-4pm. I don't get to alternate the students so that means about 30 hours of original content for them and 15 hours of original content for the teachers since they don't supply any resources. They also want all of these full lesson plans with a break down of my script and all of my material in advance. I'm at a public school by the way. They also won't give me a schedule and haven't let me know when and how much vacation time I'm getting.

Is this like anyone elses schools because it seems a little rediculous to me. Especially when they showed me the previous teachers schedule and all she had to do was make 5 original classes, work 1.5 hours a day, for two weeks and change students. I really feel like I'm getting screwed over. So, what are you guys doing? Do you have any suggestions for how to handle this rediculous work load?
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Ruraljuror



Joined: 08 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is this like anyone elses schools because it seems a little rediculous to me


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Do you have any suggestions for how to handle this rediculous work load?





That's rediculous. Hehe.
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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang

PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make one total lesson for the day and dumb it down for the younger grades. You could base it on this: http://iteslj.org/t/tmm/all.htm. For teachers use one of the Interchange or new Cambridge books. Make discussion topics, put them on post it notes and have them choose one.
Are your classes split into their respective grades or all-in-one?
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First - Your contract should say how many holidays you get.

Second - You decide when you're going to take holidays, not them. To this end, you should strategically place your holidays so that it is difficult for them to schedule 'camps' either before or after your holidays - thus maximizing your time off. Cool
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Bucheonguy



Joined: 23 Oct 2008
Location: Bucheon

PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just read the contract more carefully. You're right. I think I need to schedule my holidays myself... I just have to figure out the worst time for them.
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refikaM



Joined: 06 May 2006
Location: Gangwondo

PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:50 pm    Post subject: holidays Reply with quote

Sorry but I've NEVER heard of anyone in a public school scheduling their own holidays. Perhaps it happens but not with any of the dozens of teachers I have known teaching in Korea for the past 3 years.
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Bucheonguy



Joined: 23 Oct 2008
Location: Bucheon

PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well according to the contract, it says 14 days vacation can be used at anytime during the winter/summer break and must be approved at least 15 days in advance by the principal.
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refikaM



Joined: 06 May 2006
Location: Gangwondo

PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:56 pm    Post subject: vacation Reply with quote

Of course.. but the days that you can take those 14 days off must be approved by one's school/principal/whoever.. You can't just say, "Hey I'm taking off from ___ to ____... OK? Great!" Not at least at any schools I've ever heard of..
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:45 am    Post subject: Re: vacation Reply with quote

refikaM wrote:
Of course.. but the days that you can take those 14 days off must be approved by one's school/principal/whoever.. You can't just say, "Hey I'm taking off from ___ to ____... OK? Great!" Not at least at any schools I've ever heard of..


Every year in late October I find out the dates for the school's winter vacation and write a very formal letter to the principal re: my winter holidays -
"... This is to inform you I will be taking X days holidays from X date through X date ..."
It works for me.
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sojourner1



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug

PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's gravy train you're on. Use the 4 hour lunch periods for lesson prep as it's tough to have an accurate idea of how to teach until you start working with your students. You may or may not know yet know your students and many jobs specifics that will be involved.

I'm going to be teaching a 3 week camp of 40 elementary students for 6 hours a day. They will be the same students for the 3 weeks, but I couldn't find out anything about the facility, budget, and can only assume they're low level and will Korean talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk too damned much.

I volunteered for this camp since it pays about $20/hour and then I take 3.5 weeks vacation from Lunar New Year until February 18th. I could had just had these 3 weeks off, but I wanted an $2000 for passing go. My main school is taking off from December 24th to February 15th except 1 Korean teacher has to be there each day so they'll rotate where each will work 1 week and get 5 1/2 off. Winter is not so bad...
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D.D.



Joined: 29 May 2008

PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always schedule my holiday to return on the Thursday before the Chinese new year long weekend as that kills that week then the next week is in trouble because of the Monday and Tuesday being a holiday.
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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xuanzang wrote:
Make one total lesson for the day and dumb it down for the younger grades. You could base it on this: http://iteslj.org/t/tmm/all.htm. For teachers use one of the Interchange or new Cambridge books. Make discussion topics, put them on post it notes and have them choose one.
Are your classes split into their respective grades or all-in-one?


http://iteslj.org/t/tmm/.

I think this is the link. The chances are all the students will be arriving at different times. Have some ready made activity ready when they arrive so the early birds won't be just sitting there. I would also try using some stuff from this site too
http://bogglesworldesl.com/.
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wayfarer



Joined: 05 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Winter camp distress Reply with quote

Bucheonguy wrote:
I was just wondering what it's like for all of you. They want me to teach 3 hours a day. 2 for the students and 1 for the teachers. Teachers in the morning 9am-10am and students from 2pm-4pm. I don't get to alternate the students so that means about 30 hours of original content for them and 15 hours of original content for the teachers since they don't supply any resources. They also want all of these full lesson plans with a break down of my script and all of my material in advance. I'm at a public school by the way. They also won't give me a schedule and haven't let me know when and how much vacation time I'm getting.

Is this like anyone elses schools because it seems a little rediculous to me. Especially when they showed me the previous teachers schedule and all she had to do was make 5 original classes, work 1.5 hours a day, for two weeks and change students. I really feel like I'm getting screwed over. So, what are you guys doing? Do you have any suggestions for how to handle this rediculous work load?


The insufferable thing is that they will hardly even look at your lesson plans. When your school tries to play mind games and bully you around do NOT oblige them. Just tell them that their demands are unreasonable, make some very basic sketchy lesson plans, and improvise your teaching as necessary.
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fromtheuk



Joined: 31 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the advice about making sketchy lesson plans. You're right they ask for grand things and then don't bother to look at all of it.

The alternative is you put in the time to make a lengthy lesson plan and then use it for the rest of your working life in Korea, perhaps using a different cover sheet for each school you work for.

I've done a lengthy lesson plan and this is my intention for the future. Laughing
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mrgisa



Joined: 30 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in a similar position to you bucheonguy.

Doing as suggested by others in this thread:
- making one lesson plan and dumbing it down
- for the teachers, debate topics, let them speak it out

The guy before me did a 1 lesson 11 day camp and I am technically doing a 3 lessons 12 day camp, so I feel your pain.

Remember this when resigning time comes on. I will.

Cool

Gisa ^^
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