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withnail
Joined: 13 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul, South Korea.
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 Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:36 am Post subject: Questions for Public School Teachers |
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1. When do Korean kids first start to get English lessons from Korean teachers in state schools?
2. Any idea what sort of methods used at first from their Korean teachers?
3. When do they first get lessons with a native speaker teacher? Elementary school? All kids? (not talking about hagwons)
4. Is it true what I've heard that it's a lottery and only schools which can afford them hire foreign teachers? As a Korean elementary or middle school kid who really wants to learn English, you just have to hope your school has the funds? (I mean schools outside of Epik/Gepik program)
5. What methods do middle school Korean English teachers use? Is there any uniformity here (govt regulated) or is it case by case? |
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Ukon
Joined: 29 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:14 am Post subject: Re: Questions for Public School Teachers |
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| withnail wrote: |
1. When do Korean kids first start to get English lessons from Korean teachers in state schools?
2. Any idea what sort of methods used at first from their Korean teachers?
3. When do they first get lessons with a native speaker teacher? Elementary school? All kids? (not talking about hagwons)
4. Is it true what I've heard that it's a lottery and only schools which can afford them hire foreign teachers? As a Korean elementary or middle school kid who really wants to learn English, you just have to hope your school has the funds? (I mean schools outside of Epik/Gepik program)
5. What methods do middle school Korean English teachers use? Is there any uniformity here (govt regulated) or is it case by case? |
3rd grade...they don't start to learn reading until 4th grade according to my co-teacher. 3rd grade seems to be entirely based on speaking designed around acitivities like songs and videos. The English TV show they use in my third grade class is pretty damn entertaining for an education show.
I don't think the school buys a foreign teacher...I believe it's a windfall...mine also got $70k to build a new english class room along with recieving me.
Also the education is pretty uniform...all the other SMOE teachers use the same exact materials in their classes it seems...If your working elementary..prepare to get to know a fellow named Minsu.
Some public schools lacked an english teacher and if your unlucky, you could be assigned to one of those...in which case you might as well be an acting certified teacher. |
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icnelly
Joined: 25 Jan 2006
Location: Bucheon
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| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:41 pm Post subject: Re: Questions for Public School Teachers |
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| Ukon wrote: |
| withnail wrote: |
1. When do Korean kids first start to get English lessons from Korean teachers in state schools?
2. Any idea what sort of methods used at first from their Korean teachers?
3. When do they first get lessons with a native speaker teacher? Elementary school? All kids? (not talking about hagwons)
4. Is it true what I've heard that it's a lottery and only schools which can afford them hire foreign teachers? As a Korean elementary or middle school kid who really wants to learn English, you just have to hope your school has the funds? (I mean schools outside of Epik/Gepik program)
5. What methods do middle school Korean English teachers use? Is there any uniformity here (govt regulated) or is it case by case? |
3rd grade...they don't start to learn reading until 4th grade according to my co-teacher. 3rd grade seems to be entirely based on speaking designed around acitivities like songs and videos. The English TV show they use in my third grade class is pretty damn entertaining for an education show. |
I know plenty of schools that have classes for 1st and 2nd grade elementary students. Also, you might want to take a look at the 7th National Curriculum over fielding answers here. PM if you want a copy of what was in the 2007 GEPIK orientation; there was a good run through of the curriculum and how the educrats framed that into the current textbook and methods for teaching. You're going to find quite a disparity in the propsed uniformity and the realized (perhaps ignorantly so) autonomy of any individual public school. |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:50 pm Post subject: Re: Questions for Public School Teachers |
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| Ukon wrote: |
Also the education is pretty uniform...all the other SMOE teachers use the same exact materials in their classes it seems...If your working elementary..prepare to get to know a fellow named Minsu.
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Minsu is also well known in the middle schools too... |
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Ukon
Joined: 29 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:22 pm Post subject: Re: Questions for Public School Teachers |
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| jvalmer wrote: |
| Ukon wrote: |
Also the education is pretty uniform...all the other SMOE teachers use the same exact materials in their classes it seems...If your working elementary..prepare to get to know a fellow named Minsu.
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Minsu is also well known in the middle schools too... |
Really? They phased him out in 6th grade in my school from what I've seen. |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:46 pm Post subject: Re: Questions for Public School Teachers |
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| Ukon wrote: |
| jvalmer wrote: |
| Ukon wrote: |
Also the education is pretty uniform...all the other SMOE teachers use the same exact materials in their classes it seems...If your working elementary..prepare to get to know a fellow named Minsu.
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Minsu is also well known in the middle schools too... |
Really? They phased him out in 6th grade in my school from what I've seen. |
It depends on what book the middle school uses. If they use the -chunjae gyoyuk- books students will be well acquainted with the lives of Minsu, Sujin, Mike, Cathy and a few salespeople. |
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sonicmatt
Joined: 04 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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| maybe get to know inho and sora as well, throw in a laura too |
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Seoul'n'Corea
Joined: 06 Nov 2008
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Be prepapred for Minsu's dog Bongu... who is always cute to me.. WTF
 How can anyone be "cute to something"...????
How are you -- and you ....
Things like this drive me crazy with these slap together books. -- What's worse is Vocabularies .. Vocabulary is singular or plural. There is no such word , "Vocabularies."
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Xuanzang
Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang
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| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Soon Jinho graduates to middle school. |
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ThingsComeAround
Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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Vocabularies? HA!   |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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In our PUBLIC, rural, school we had 2 foreign teachers and the kids started learning with a FT from Kindergarten through to grade 6.
I taught kindy once a week, mostly songs, stories and ECE activities.
With G1/G2 we worked on phonics and basic English vocabulary and classroom English. Again it was a mixture of TPR and other ECE methodologies.
With G3/4 they got the Ft once a week with the standard curriculum and it was supplemented by the homeroom KT for one more period per week.
For G5/6 they spent 2 classes per week with the FT and had supplemental work in the step/jump books during the lunch break with the PTA mothers and one more class each week with the homeroom teachers.
All classes were 40 minutes duration.
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Becka
Joined: 28 Sep 2005
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| Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:32 am Post subject: Re: Questions for Public School Teachers |
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| icnelly wrote: |
| You're going to find quite a disparity in the propsed uniformity and the realized (perhaps ignorantly so) autonomy of any individual public school. |
I thought part of the 7th National Curriculum was to give individual schools more autonomy (in terms of general administration and curriculum, not just specific to English)?
Anyone ever notice how MiNa in grade 3 and 4 becomes NaMi in grade 5 and 6? (definitely vacation time if I'm noticing stuff like this!)
FTR: I teach at two rural elementary schools, and I teach K-6. K, 1, and 2 are part of the after-school program, though. |
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