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How did you decide on your external monitor purchase?

 
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sojourner1



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 5:47 pm    Post subject: How did you decide on your external monitor purchase? Reply with quote

You wanted a large external monitor for your notebook, but found no monitors with your notebooks native resolution of 1280X800 and you know that a monitor larger than 20 inches has a 1920X1200 native resolution. While the 1920X1200 native resolution monitor will emulate any resolution, there will be detail loss and some artifacting from the monitor stepping it down and then you may be stuck with a huge 480P(regular TV) display showing less than your notebook screen causing you to not be able to enjoy your 720P HDTV shows like you can on your notebook screen. I thought I could just go out and buy a 24 inch 720P or 1280X800 resolution monitor like the one in my notebook, but it's not available. Would a 1920X1200 cause half of it to be black area or step it down to a 480P or simply fill the whole screen with my 1280X1200 image(preferred)?

I can't find a definitive guide or info on buying one of these bad boys nor adequate technical info to make an informed purchase decision. The most on resolution is native resolutions are listed. It used to be that monitors and video cards matched up and the ads listed the tech specs, but now it's all a big cloud with consumer electronics, because it's become so plug and play and will almost always work, but if you don't know what you're doing or not informed, then you may not get the benefits of what you're paying for. For example, you might buy an 720p HDTV only to have it step 1080i material down to 480p which is regular TV so you still don't have HD display in that case, but could think you do after spending a thousand bucks.

The other thing is how much resolution does the 15 pin D-Sub RGB cabling support? I know it takes HDMI for 1080i, but I want to know if D-Sub, often called RGB, supports 720P HD computer display like my notebook runs in. Most notebooks still don't have one of the two different DVI, HDMI, HDCP ports; only D-Sub which notebook manufacturers often call RGB which indicates an outdated analog device on a modern digital computer. Nothing an any site or document I know of states the technical capabilities. It better be able to output the notebooks native resolution. How frustrating is that?

Really, the deal with HDTV and monitors is there are so many varying native resolutions, tech specs, and such that compatability comes into question because industry standards are very fuzzy and vague right now. They needed to decide on going to HDTV, then manufacture everything to work on that level since it's been declare a couple years ago we're switching over to digital HDTV for television programming and computer content. The industry is spitting out so many different things (most of which probably won't be the new standard) that few are standardized, but it's veering more towards everything running in 1080i graphics resolution as new game systems and such do that using HDMI ports and cables, another new standard. It's obvious nothing is standard today as it's changing quickly while manufacturers want to use the materials they've already bought into, but doesn't quite live up to newer standards. For example, a newer computer is not equipped for newer monitors unless you specifically buy high end desktop PC components like a video card specified at 1080i or 1920X1200 or higher. A newer notebook still usually lacks DVI or HDMI ports.

I just don't want to buy something only to find it's not right, because a return might be difficult in Korea off of Gmarket.

How did you find a monitor to match your notebooks 720p or 1280X800 resolution?
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uhh...notebooks scale to different sizes of screens using output from a graphics chip, just like a desktop does.

The native resolution of the notebook monitor is just for that... the notebook. It doesn't matter if you plug into an external monitor. That external monitor may have a native resolution of its own that you need to be sure your notebook graphics card is capable of outputting to.
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eamo



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right. It's nothing really to do with the native resolution used by your laptop screen. It's about how big a resolution your graphics card can go before the picture on the external monitor becomes pixelated and stutters.

CPU speed matters too.

Just because your laptop graphics supports the 1280x800 of your laptop screen doesn't mean it won't support higher than that. But the quality might suffer. But, AFAIK, it will work with an HDTV which has a larger resolution than it was designed to officially support.

To be honest, I'm just giving an educated guess here. Not totally sure.
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sojourner1



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
Uhh...notebooks scale to different sizes of screens using output from a graphics chip, just like a desktop does.

The native resolution of the notebook monitor is just for that... the notebook. It doesn't matter if you plug into an external monitor. That external monitor may have a native resolution of its own that you need to be sure your notebook graphics card is capable of outputting to.



I called the manufacturer tech support for my notebook who said that my integrated ATI X1200 graphics chips only puts out a maximum of 1280X800 resolution when asking if it would drive one of these 1920X1200 monitors. I asked if I could get more resolution with an external monitor even though the notebook screen is limited to 1280X800. He said no, 1280X800 is the maximum the graphics chip will drive regardless of what I do to it. I then asked if there is software to make the computer emulate other resolutions to support a wide screen external monitor providing I upgrade to 4 gigabytes of RAM and he said no. This leaves me wanting a 22 to 24 inch 9:10 wide screen monitor displaying 1280X800 resolution which is not for sale anywhere I can see. I bought my new notebook 6 months ago in the states so it should be quite good and compatible with a new monitor.

Can a 1920X1200 monitor display the lower resolution I'm trying to get?
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Jeff's Cigarettes



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just buy that 32"er on buy and sell and get on with life. Very Happy
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Ukon



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sojourner1 wrote:
bassexpander wrote:
Uhh...notebooks scale to different sizes of screens using output from a graphics chip, just like a desktop does.

The native resolution of the notebook monitor is just for that... the notebook. It doesn't matter if you plug into an external monitor. That external monitor may have a native resolution of its own that you need to be sure your notebook graphics card is capable of outputting to.



I called the manufacturer tech support for my notebook who said that my integrated ATI X1200 graphics chips only puts out a maximum of 1280X800 resolution when asking if it would drive one of these 1920X1200 monitors. I asked if I could get more resolution with an external monitor even though the notebook screen is limited to 1280X800. He said no, 1280X800 is the maximum the graphics chip will drive regardless of what I do to it. I then asked if there is software to make the computer emulate other resolutions to support a wide screen external monitor providing I upgrade to 4 gigabytes of RAM and he said no. This leaves me wanting a 22 to 24 inch 9:10 wide screen monitor displaying 1280X800 resolution which is not for sale anywhere I can see. I bought my new notebook 6 months ago in the states so it should be quite good and compatible with a new monitor.

Can a 1920X1200 monitor display the lower resolution I'm trying to get?



yes, but it won't look as nice.....720p is supported on most tvs so you should be fine....also the program powerstrip gives you many resolution options.
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