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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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 Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 5:19 am Post subject: Asiana Arranging Free Flights for Foreign Workers |
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Asiana Arranging Free Flights for Foreign Workers
National carrier Asiana Airlines has an ongoing event to let foreign workers visit their home country in time with the Lunar New Year. The company is collecting donations of one thousand mileage points each from its online customers to provide round tickets to migrant workers who haven't been able to go home because of financial constraints. The only drawback you need to be able to read Korean.
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200401/200401080008.html
Will some generous online customers make some donations for me? The university I serve does not cover travel expenses for foreigners. In fact, I had to pay for the visa run and all other expenses related to getting employed in Korea. |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 5:44 am Post subject: |
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| Will some generous online customers make some donations for me? The university I serve does not cover travel expenses for foreigners. In fact, I had to pay for the visa run and all other expenses related to getting employed in Korea. |
I know this has been brought up before but I still find it strange that some English Instructors appear to equate their situation in Korea with that of (for example) some poor s.o.b. from Bangladesh working 60 hours a week in a factory or on a contruction site for W900,000 a month...
When did the position of instructor at a university become a 3D job? |
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peppergirl
Joined: 07 Dec 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 6:30 am Post subject: |
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It's the first time I hear about such a charity by an airline... Do other airlines do this too?
I heard about the Asiana charity last night on the news, they were planning to have the eventfor several weeks, but after 3 days they almost got the target mileage already. I think it's a pretty nice initiative, most of those factory workers wouldn't be able to go home otherwise, or want to save the money to send to their families instead of using it for a ticket. |
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matko
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: in a world of hurt!
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| Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 6:38 am Post subject: |
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I didn't read the link, sorry. I am wondering about the 'having to read Korean' part.
Why?
This strikes me as odd. |
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OiGirl
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun
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| Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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| peppergirl wrote: |
It's the first time I hear about such a charity by an airline... Do other airlines do this too?
I heard about the Asiana charity last night on the news, they were planning to have the eventfor several weeks, but after 3 days they almost got the target mileage already. I think it's a pretty nice initiative, most of those factory workers wouldn't be able to go home otherwise, or want to save the money to send to their families instead of using it for a ticket. |
Who is donating all these miles? Is it Koreans or foreigners who fly Asiana a lot? Whatever happened to the "Koreans don't give to charity" thread? |
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Cthulhu
Joined: 02 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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| The company is collecting donations of one thousand mileage points each from its online customers to provide round tickets to migrant workers who haven't been able to go home because of financial constraints. |
Good point Oigirl. Clearly this can't be true, since clearly we have already been told that there is a lack of Giving and Kindness in Korea. But Real Reality's wonderful effort at pointing out the bit about the English requirement seems to once again cover the required angle for the article.
Actually, Real Reality was selective with his quoting. The actual quote from the article...
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| if you'd still like to participate, log onto Asiana's website and register. The only drawback you need to be able to read Korean. The company told that they will have the event again this fall and that they plan to have English services available also. |
...clearly indicates that Korean is needed to navigate the website, not to collect the air miles. But it easy to understand a mistake being made, especially when the article was just too positive for its own good, right Real Reality? 
At first the reading Korean bit sounded odd too, though so many foreign workers seem to know Korean (putting English teachers to shame I might add) that it might be a moot point for many. Now it seems much clearer. |
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Cedar
Joined: 11 Mar 2003
Location: In front of my computer, again.
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| Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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Many of the 3D workers get less than 900,000 a month. If they are legal "trainee" workers, they sometimes only get 400,000 a month. If any of the English teachers on this board want to try to apply for these miles which are meant for the disadvantaged workers from poor countries, I will be ashamed to be your fellow English teacher. You should be donating mileage, not thinking of applying to receive it.
ps I know that most of you understand this, this post is only for the greedy. |
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FUBAR
Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: The Y.C.
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| Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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| OiGirl wrote: |
| peppergirl wrote: |
It's the first time I hear about such a charity by an airline... Do other airlines do this too?
I heard about the Asiana charity last night on the news, they were planning to have the eventfor several weeks, but after 3 days they almost got the target mileage already. I think it's a pretty nice initiative, most of those factory workers wouldn't be able to go home otherwise, or want to save the money to send to their families instead of using it for a ticket. |
Who is donating all these miles? Is it Koreans or foreigners who fly Asiana a lot? Whatever happened to the "Koreans don't give to charity" thread? |
That thread was written by the ignorant. It's 100% not true. From what I've seen and heard, the Koreans give a fair amount to charity. It's just something that most people don't see our hear b/c they aren't in the position to see it. |
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Harpeau
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Coquitlam, BC
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| Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| FUBAR wrote: |
| OiGirl wrote: |
| peppergirl wrote: |
It's the first time I hear about such a charity by an airline... Do other airlines do this too?
I heard about the Asiana charity last night on the news, they were planning to have the eventfor several weeks, but after 3 days they almost got the target mileage already. I think it's a pretty nice initiative, most of those factory workers wouldn't be able to go home otherwise, or want to save the money to send to their families instead of using it for a ticket. |
Who is donating all these miles? Is it Koreans or foreigners who fly Asiana a lot? Whatever happened to the "Koreans don't give to charity" thread? |
That thread was written by the ignorant. It's 100% not true. From what I've seen and heard, the Koreans give a fair amount to charity. It's just something that most people don't see our hear b/c they aren't in the position to see it. |
Agree with Fubar here. Part of the old missionary influence of Korea's past seems to be~ don't let your left hand see what your right hand is doing.~ many here are very charitable, but do not tell others about it.
Cheers!
Harpeau |
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Butterfly
Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait
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| Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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Agree with Fubar here. Part of the old missionary influence of Korea's past seems to be~ don't let your left hand see what your right hand is doing.~ many here are very charitable, but do not tell others about it.
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Exactly. Many people here are not ostentatious about giving, some are of course, but so many aren't so there is no way that a foreign resident can be informed enough to pass judgment on Korea with regard to charities. The churches do some sterling work from the donations that their congregations donate both in and outside their national borders.
I reckon this Asiana initiative has annoyed a few of our resident whiners, who are right now desperately trying to find something underhand about it. |
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FUBAR
Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: The Y.C.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 12:03 am Post subject: |
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| Butterfly wrote: |
| Harpeau wrote: |
Agree with Fubar here. Part of the old missionary influence of Korea's past seems to be~ don't let your left hand see what your right hand is doing.~ many here are very charitable, but do not tell others about it.
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Exactly. Many people here are not ostentatious about giving, some are of course, but so many aren't so there is no way that a foreign resident can be informed enough to pass judgment on Korea with regard to charities. The churches do some sterling work from the donations that their congregations donate both in and outside their national borders.
I reckon this Asiana initiative has annoyed a few of our resident whiners, who are right now desperately trying to find something underhand about it. |
Just a few examples from what I saw at my school:
We had a school flea market and luncheon with the proceeds being donated to needy students going to highschool
Each homeroom had a collection box with the money going to charities over the Christmas Holidays
When one teacher's husband died, each teacher put in 30,000 won minimum to help the lady out. With 50 teachers at the school that comes out to at least 1.5 million won.
The teachers were giving money for some charity. When I asked how much I should donate, they were shocked that I offered. They thought that it a foreigner wouldn't be interested in donating. Then they gave me some sort of pin to put on my jacket. It looked like some kind of red flower or red berry. I forget now.
I was also told that the big companies will send workers to help out in cities where natural disasters occur.
There are many other things that I forgeting right now. But I never knew about this until I left the hogwon scene. |
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matko
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: in a world of hurt!
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| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 12:25 am Post subject: |
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Ok. Am I missing something?
Doesn't the fact that these foreign workers need charity tell you guys something?
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 3:59 am Post subject: |
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matko wrote,
Doesn't the fact that these foreign workers need charity tell you guys something?
Exactly. |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 4:06 am Post subject: |
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Lots of people need charity.
Why is it such a bad thing to discover that some Koreans are attempting to take up the slack when govt. regulations (e.g. regarding wages and conditions for foreign 3d workers) are lacking?
RR your op didn't come off as cry out against such injustices- it came off as a selfish 'why can't I get some?' whine. |
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Cthulhu
Joined: 02 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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| RR your op didn't come off as cry out against such injustices- it came off as a selfish 'why can't I get some?' whine. |
Exactly.
And I'm still wondering why the taken out of context quote "The only drawback you need to be able to read Korean" in the original post was the only bit in boldface. |
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