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Where and how to find a genuinely good guy.
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The best way to meet a GOOD guy
Internet (including Dave's)
30%
 30%  [ 7 ]
Bars
4%
 4%  [ 1 ]
Interest Groups
21%
 21%  [ 5 ]
Friends' Parties
43%
 43%  [ 10 ]
Language Exchange
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
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aboxofchocolates



Joined: 21 Mar 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

browneyedgirl wrote:
If nothing works, try the rules from The Rules.


Or just give up dating and watch browneyedgirl's avatar for hours on end in awe and fascination.
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aboxofchocolates



Joined: 21 Mar 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am trying to a) find a quality guy and b) give up the booze (one bad decision too many, do not delve). This is a terrible combination as I have both foregone my liquid courage and my high-standards cure. Mostly, however, I am at a loss for social settings to work my limited mojo. It was once I went to a bar with some friends, I fueled up, I saw a guy across the room and I trotted on over and started talking, easy sleazy. I now hate bars, I�m not relaxed, I�m awkward when I start chatting, I look like a serial killer when I try my �come hither� gaze; how did people reproduce before liquor?

Panda, this is what you do: get utterly sheit faced dumb fkk drunk, and pick a super cute guy in the room. Chat him up but do not offer the sex. Ask him to escort you home, but make it clear you do not want to have the sex tonight (by saying �I do not want to have the sex tonight and I am not just being coy,�). If he tries to get into your pants, not a quality guy. If he takes you home as per your request and leaves without asking, quality guy. Having said that, never ever ever do this because it�s a great way to get robbed, raped, and murdered.
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Rebound



Joined: 04 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Panda wrote:


Rebound
Let us do, no worry, I pay all the bills plus I will buy you a cute cute ear muff as a Xmas gift, I will be smooth....but could you wear pink shirt and tight jeans, oh BTW...I prefer strawberry lip balm.



OK, I hope you can make reservations for a place and dont just go there at the last minute like you didnt plan it. If you're going to be really smooth, I hope you can buy me some nice new expensive leather shoes, but dont just buy them and drop them in my lap. Find a good time to give them to me (like when you are singing our song to me over the dinner at the place at which you made the reservations). I dont mind the earmuffs. But it would be so romantic if you would buy the same pink shirt as me and then we can go out as a couple together every Saturday night and hold hands. If you really love me, you will take at least 20 photos of us standing together in front of 20 different meaningless objects or landmarks during our date. If you're really good, I'll let you squeeze my butt in those tight jeans I'm wearing for you, baby. Wink
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samcheokguy



Joined: 02 Nov 2008
Location: Samcheok G-do

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aboxofchocolates wrote:
Chat him up but do not offer the sex. Ask him to escort you home, but make it clear you do not want to have the sex tonight (by saying �I do not want to have the sex tonight and I am not just being coy,�). If he tries to get into your pants, not a quality guy. If he takes you home as per your request and leaves without asking, quality guy.

illogical. If he is a macho dude, and you approach he will be offering to 'sex you up' from the get go. If he is a nerd he will be uncomfortable with you approaching him in the first place. If he just follows you home and goes home alone he is a loser, resigned to never getting laid or having hopes but knowing he is doomed to failure.
Your plan is relying on meeting statistical outlliers. Don't play statistical outliers as you can't rely on them.
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

samcheokguy wrote:
aboxofchocolates wrote:
Chat him up but do not offer the sex. Ask him to escort you home, but make it clear you do not want to have the sex tonight (by saying �I do not want to have the sex tonight and I am not just being coy,�). If he tries to get into your pants, not a quality guy. If he takes you home as per your request and leaves without asking, quality guy.

illogical. If he is a macho dude, and you approach he will be offering to 'sex you up' from the get go. If he is a nerd he will be uncomfortable with you approaching him in the first place. If he just follows you home and goes home alone he is a loser, resigned to never getting laid or having hopes but knowing he is doomed to failure.
Your plan is relying on meeting statistical outlliers. Don't play statistical outliers as you can't rely on them.

Wow, particularly well-said.

I'd also add that the majority of men aren't looking for relationships from bars. 9 times out of 10 that same guy will be back in the same bar many times looking for the exact situation again (as opposed to looking for a woman who sweeps him off his feet and not heading back to the bar).

The plan does work well with the internet. All kinds of guys are on the internet, including the 'good guys', the 'perpetually sober', the 'workaholics', all mixed in with your usual assortment of 'other' guys.

Bars, by definition, 99% of the time, attract a certain kind of guy - one who has a strong preference to be in the bar.
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samcheokguy



Joined: 02 Nov 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ie social horny drunks can be found in bars
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aboxofchocolates



Joined: 21 Mar 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

samcheokguy wrote:
aboxofchocolates wrote:
Chat him up but do not offer the sex. Ask him to escort you home, but make it clear you do not want to have the sex tonight (by saying �I do not want to have the sex tonight and I am not just being coy,�). If he tries to get into your pants, not a quality guy. If he takes you home as per your request and leaves without asking, quality guy.

illogical. If he is a macho dude, and you approach he will be offering to 'sex you up' from the get go. If he is a nerd he will be uncomfortable with you approaching him in the first place. If he just follows you home and goes home alone he is a loser, resigned to never getting laid or having hopes but knowing he is doomed to failure.
Your plan is relying on meeting statistical outlliers. Don't play statistical outliers as you can't rely on them.


No no, a guy can suggest the sex from the get go, that's totally cool. Just, when she makes it clear she doesn't want to have sex (right now) and he decides he wants to stick around because even through her drunken haze she is still a captivating individual he should offer to be a champion and take her home without.... oh, wow, that is just the most unlikely scenario I have ever constructed. Never ever listen to my guy finding advice, I am doomed to be single forever.
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Panda



Joined: 25 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There has been lots disccusion as to how fast should ppl put out.

I personally dont see the neccessary relation between good guys(girls) with abstinence, after all, it has a lot to do with how old they are, old playboys could hold themselves better than young guys, right?

Sex is one but not the only indicator, also its reliability varies from person to person. Thus I agree with Samcheokguy Laughing .

And to aboxofchocolates, that is one of my problems, I am always sober and whenever I start talking to guys, the conversation would inevitably end up with very unsexy topics (not neccessarily boring), which I guess makes me look although better than any serial killer, still very horrible. I am just too dumb or too shy to look interested in men or to ask them out, my stringent self-esteem prevent myself from putting out easily, especially when girls are getting older, you wont like the idea of being regarded as desperate or slutty.

Anyway... Crying or Very sad


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samcheokguy



Joined: 02 Nov 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so in other words you are admitting to having a non-effective mating strategy?
evolve woman evolve
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wanderingbear



Joined: 09 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

internet is where the best guys hang out, trust me i am one
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aboxofchocolates



Joined: 21 Mar 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

samcheokguy wrote:
so in other words you are admitting to having a non-effective mating strategy?
evolve woman evolve


Somebody needs to re-read "The Origin of Species".... The faster you pop out the kids the better off you are in Darwinian terms.
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aboxofchocolates



Joined: 21 Mar 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wanderingbear wrote:
internet is where the best guys hang out, trust me i am one


It's also where the con-artists and psychos hang out.
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samcheokguy



Joined: 02 Nov 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aboxofchocolates wrote:
samcheokguy wrote:
so in other words you are admitting to having a non-effective mating strategy?
evolve woman evolve


Somebody needs to re-read "The Origin of Species".... The faster you pop out the kids the better off you are in Darwinian terms.

Only if those kids survuve to maturity. If you starve while expecting you are a failure.
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Panda



Joined: 25 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aboxofchocolates wrote:
wanderingbear wrote:
internet is where the best guys hang out, trust me i am one


It's also where the con-artists and psychos hang out.


I agree, developing an internet psycho recognition system is in great need. Laughing

Most guys mentioned and recomended "internet", while our poll shows the leading popularity at "friends' parties", It indicates some inconsistency which I reckon due to the sex-composition of the voters, but we will see.
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aboxofchocolates



Joined: 21 Mar 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

samcheokguy wrote:
aboxofchocolates wrote:
samcheokguy wrote:
so in other words you are admitting to having a non-effective mating strategy?
evolve woman evolve


Somebody needs to re-read "The Origin of Species".... The faster you pop out the kids the better off you are in Darwinian terms.

Only if those kids survuve to maturity. If you starve while expecting you are a failure.


Sure, in famine struck countries this might be a failure. A baby is generally going to live to adulthood with the social support mechanisms in our culture. Humanity's survival mechanism is culture, not flat abs, pretty faces, confidence, alpha whoever bs.
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