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To Recruit or Not to Recruit?

 
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utopiansocialist



Joined: 08 Dec 2008
Location: Oklahoma, US

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:30 pm    Post subject: To Recruit or Not to Recruit? Reply with quote

I am considering teaching ESL through footprints recruiting, anyone have any feedback on if this is good or bad? I have read that you should just risk it, buy a ticket, find a job when you arrive, but that just sounds scary and shady....
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jadarite



Joined: 01 Sep 2007
Location: Andong, Yeongyang, Seoul, now Pyeongtaek

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have read that you should just risk it, buy a ticket, find a job when you arrive, but that just sounds scary and shady....


That option is not available for newbies. I would look over dozens of contracts and not take the first offer you get. Get a feel for what the norm is and if you want a private school or public school position.

For more information, you can check this page http://jadarite.wikispaces.com/workinasia
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xCustomx



Joined: 06 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jadarite wrote:
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I have read that you should just risk it, buy a ticket, find a job when you arrive, but that just sounds scary and shady....


That option is not available for newbies. I would look over dozens of contracts and not take the first offer you get. Get a feel for what the norm is and if you want a private school or public school position.

For more information, you can check this page http://jadarite.wikispaces.com/workinasia


Why not? I did it almost 4 years ago and am glad I did. I was able to meet directors and teachers at several schools, as well as the housing that the school would provide. Some of the housing was horrendous and at least one of the shared accomodations smelled like urine. Shocked

Looking back, it was scary since I didn't know anyone here, but it's not impossible. I found a small hagwon in Bundang, that got me a nice officetel, with small classes of just 3-5 students. My boss was a Korean American, so there were no communication problems. She was a bit of a bitch and I was paid late a few times, but overall I'm glad I came on my own.

Get some contacts before you come over. You can usually set up appointments with recruiters over the phone and go interview at a hagwon. Don't go with the first offer that you receive. I'd give yourself at least 2-3 weeks to find a decent job. Plan to live in a goshiwon during that time and make sure to rent a cell phone at the airport. Oh, and learn enough Korean to read, order food and ask for directions. If you need any more help PM me and I'd be glad to help out
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daz1979



Joined: 29 Apr 2006
Location: Gangwon-Do

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he is trying to say that:

Someone who has never worked in Korea MUST go home for an interview at their local Embassy, so it would be impossible to come here and just find work with the new reulations in place.

I heard that you can have a webcam interview for special circumstances, but if the OP is flying from his home country to find work I doubt that they would allow him/her to have a webcam interview because he/she could have had the interview at home.

Maybe, I am wrong though. But, I think that is what the reply was referring to.




With regards to Footprints. I personally thought that they were terrible, but other posters will say that they were great. In my case they didn't listen to any of my requests. I asked for a quiet coastal location and they kept sending me big cities that were nowhere near the coast. I also asked for no contracts with WONDERLAND and the first offer that I received was for WONDERLAND. Rolling Eyes After that I was told that I was too fussy!! Laughing

If I were you I would contact:

HAGWON (Action Recruitment/Action Korea) http://actionrecruitment.cyoz.com/

Public (ESL PLANET or KORVIA)
www.korvia.com
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xCustomx



Joined: 06 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

daz1979 wrote:
I think he is trying to say that:

Someone who has never worked in Korea MUST go home for an interview at their local Embassy, so it would be impossible to come here and just find work with the new reulations in place.


When you have the interview, do you have to have a signed contract? If not, why not just come over on a tourist visa, find a job, fly back to your home country, go to the interview, and have the school pay for your flight back. If you could negotiate it, try and have them reimburse you for 1/2 of your plane ticket back to your home country so you can go to the interview.
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daz1979



Joined: 29 Apr 2006
Location: Gangwon-Do

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would anyone pay to come and then go home again for a 20 minute interview? Maybe someone would, but I wouldn't.

Yes, as far as I'm aware you would need to have a contract signed and documentation in place to review at the interview.
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jadarite



Joined: 01 Sep 2007
Location: Andong, Yeongyang, Seoul, now Pyeongtaek

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could go to a winter camp and just get a C4 visa. If it sucks, then it won't be that long. You can then take that money and shop around (extend visa for 30 days or so?) for another job. Instead of them paying for your return flight, just ask them to pay you the same amount and you'll make your own flight arrangements (if that is possible).

Then, when you interview for your other job, see if the school will pay for a visa run (not the usual kind, but pay for part of your trip back to the states). This way, you won't be putting up money if it works out.
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