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Cheap ways of getting to Japan?

 
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Sapa



Joined: 05 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:04 pm    Post subject: Cheap ways of getting to Japan? Reply with quote

I'm just curious about how much it costs to get a ferry to Japan. I have got prices on flights from Seoul to Tokyo at around $350. If your heading to Tokyo would it end up being more expensive to get down to Busan then Ferry it to Japan and on to Tokyo? Are there many amazing sights on the way up to Tokyo that would be worth a stopover?
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bangbayed



Joined: 01 Dec 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best trip I had to Japan was going to Busan, taking the overnight ferry to Shimonoseki, and using the Japan Rail Pass that I purchased in Korea and going to Tokyo, Osaka, Kyoto, Hiroshima and Takeshima for two weeks. The ferry cost around 120,000 won, if I remember, for one way. This was the cheapest ticket and you get to sleep in a big communal room like you'd see in a jjimjil bang. If you pay a little more you can get a more private room.

I totally recommend the Rail pass if you want to see more than one or two cities in Japan. Trains are great but expensive. With the rail pass, you can even hop on the bullet trains anytime.
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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bangbayed wrote:
Best trip I had to Japan was going to Busan, taking the overnight ferry to Shimonoseki, and using the Japan Rail Pass that I purchased in Korea and going to Tokyo, Osaka, Kyoto, Hiroshima and Takeshima for two weeks. The ferry cost around 120,000 won, if I remember, for one way. This was the cheapest ticket and you get to sleep in a big communal room like you'd see in a jjimjil bang. If you pay a little more you can get a more private room.

I totally recommend the Rail pass if you want to see more than one or two cities in Japan. Trains are great but expensive. With the rail pass, you can even hop on the bullet trains anytime.


Except for Nozomi (the 600km/h) ones and it gets you free use of JR trains in the cities and the Tokyo subway.
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otto



Joined: 10 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Took the PanStar ferry from Busan to Osaka this past summer. We got Kansai area rail passes that we used to get to Kyoto, Nara and Himeji. I would definitely recommend the PanStar if you are interested in the Kansai area, but I don't know if it would make much sense for Tokyo, since you would have to take a bus or train onwards from Osaka.
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sojourner1



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's like $250 return for the Beetle between Busan and Fukoaka and then trains would cost that much more if not more to go to Tokyo and other further away places. This makes flying from Seoul to Narita most practical. I understand it's running around 350,000 return after tax right now.

Another, but unconventional (and cheaper!)way to do it would be to...

From the East coast such as in Gangwon-do, you could use a rubber raft left over from last Summer's Emart purchase and retrofit a 50cc scooter engine and model airplane propeller on a steel rod to make a miniature long tail boat if you have the extra vacation time spare in getting there at only 3 MPH. If this is too slow, you can use a 125cc Daelim motor bike engine with a 6 inch boat propeller connected to a 1/2 inch diameter steel drive shaft. If this still yet is too slow, you could mount a car engine on a handcrafted wooden boat for a real long tail boat. Just be sure to keep warm while you're dodging ice chunks and at the half way point, tell Dokdo, "Hello sparkling!"

If you find the Beetle boat to be over priced or simply don't want to risk your life dodging ice chunks on a raft in the Eastern Sea, then you can fly comfortably on a Boeing jet to conquer inconvenient hops like this for less heard earned dosh than you think.
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doc_ido



Joined: 03 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The slow Busan-Fukuoka boat goes for the W80,000 range each way, but you then have to consider the Fukuoka-wherever you want to go cost (the overnight bus is Y15,000).
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TeeBee



Joined: 18 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just been through a major effort to find the cheapest way to travel to Tokyo. Originally I was going to take the PanStar Ferry, but I found a flight with Northwest Airlines from Incheon to Tokyo for 360,000 won. The cheapest way to get there by FAR!

Otherwise the PanStar ferry will set you back about 250,000 won return from Busan to Osaka. You can then get an overnight bus from Osaka to Tokyo for about 5,000 yen each way. That's about 75,000 won at current exchange rates.

If you add in the train tickets from Seoul to Busan (about 100,000 won return), this trip to Tokyo will set you back about 500,000 won.

At the moment the 7-day Japan Rail pass is costing close to 440,000 won (28,300 yen). Not sure if it's worth it at the moment.
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Donghae



Joined: 24 Dec 2003
Location: Fukuoka, Japan

PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xuanzang wrote:

Except for Nozomi (the 600km/h) ones and it gets you free use of JR trains in the cities and the Tokyo subway.


Quite correct and a useful thing to point out about not being able to use the rail pass on the Nozomi. They don't travel at 600km/h, however Laughing Laughing Their top speed is around 300km/h. Same speed as the KTX, although the Shinkansen has a lot more legroom.

If flying from Seoul to Tokyo, remember that you also have the option of flying from Gimpo to Haneda. When doing all your money calculations, factor in how much extra it'll cost you to get to/from Incheon instead of Gimpo and Narita instead of Haneda - that'll make a fair difference (in time as well as money), although a Japan Rail Pass could cover your journeys to/from Narita if it's still valid on the day you leave.

As has already been alluded to above, Japan Rail Pass prices in other countries are updated pretty often to keep up with exchange rates. So from a Korean perspective, it's not the best deal at the moment (nor is any travel to Japan, for that matter!). I don't know where the OP is from, but, if you have enough time for it to be mailed to you, it might be worth looking into how much the JR pass would cost if bought in your home country. All you actually buy is a voucher which is exchanged for the pass when you get to Japan.
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Donghae



Joined: 24 Dec 2003
Location: Fukuoka, Japan

PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TeeBee wrote:
I've just been through a major effort to find the cheapest way to travel to Tokyo. Originally I was going to take the PanStar Ferry, but I found a flight with Northwest Airlines from Incheon to Tokyo for 360,000 won. The cheapest way to get there by FAR!

Otherwise the PanStar ferry will set you back about 250,000 won return from Busan to Osaka. You can then get an overnight bus from Osaka to Tokyo for about 5,000 yen each way. That's about 75,000 won at current exchange rates.

If you add in the train tickets from Seoul to Busan (about 100,000 won return), this trip to Tokyo will set you back about 500,000 won.

At the moment the 7-day Japan Rail pass is costing close to 440,000 won (28,300 yen). Not sure if it's worth it at the moment.


In the end I think you're right about which way to get there, especially given the difference in time taken. And when you take longer and have more transfers, you tend to spend a lot more money on coffee/beer, snacks n stuff in those break times that you never budgeted for beforehand.

But the difference in price between the ferry to Osaka and the flight to Narita is closer than you think. For a start, you can get to Busan a lot cheaper than 100k return if you don't take the KTX or fly. Also, bear in mind that the Narita Express train to Shinjuku and back will set you back over Y6000 (over W90,000 at present rates) if you don't have a rail pass to cover it. There are cheaper ways of getting to/from Narita, but you've still got to reckon on it costing you at least W50,000 return from central Tokyo.
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