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Gimpokid



Joined: 09 Nov 2008
Location: Best Gimpo

PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The dumb part and what makes me think it is simply a humiliation tactic is that they don't test for marijauna and most other drugs only stay in your p*ss for a few days, so what's the point?
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Skippy



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remember people - when life gives you lemons make lemonade or to my adage - Life sucks make it give you a blow job

First thing make sure the school pays - if possible either make it the most expensive test (if you hate the school) and if possible pocket some extra dosh (Yea sorry "Mr. Kim it was 200,000 won. not 50,000 won).

Repeat after me for the next part - "There was a huge line" Think of it as a day off of work.

And if you want to be really nasty - spike your test eat a poppy seed bagel. Nothing like false positives to keep going back and back for another test.

Also try to make it funny - if your school wants one get a nice happy look on your face run to the bathroom - I mean literally run and return with a nice dixie cup full of pee for the boss. Get a needle and offer to take blood right in front of him.

Anyways good luck with your future test lets hope they all are negative.
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gazz



Joined: 13 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A. One poster said weed only stays in your system for a few days, think again! This is one of the most ironic things about drugs because while the white powder (not snow) does leave the system vvv quickly the weed does not!

B. It is my understanding that in the new (2009) EPIK contract, if/when you leave the country for a hol, the school or the powers that be can ask (make) you do a drug test - given a days notice or so.

I don�t have the contract to hand and I can�t be arsed to go onto the EPIK site to look at it again but I am fairly sure that this is the general gist of it.

So think about that next year!!!!

I personally think it is a good thing. It will help weed out (pardon the pun) the shittie* elements of the ESL industry.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Listen folks, if it is not in the immigration law and it is not in your contract, it is not legal or required.

Even if you don't use drugs (which you shouldn't do at least in Korea), you should not allow authorities to make up rules and violate your privacy.

For the people who say, "So what? I don't use drugs, it's ok." You obviously didn't study dangers of governmental invasions of privacy. Don't roll over like a dog for these xenophobic institutions and supervisors. A simple, "No, let me show you the Korean immigration requirements."

If you signed a contract stating you would submit to it, then it is your fault for agreeing to authoritarian regulations.

Unless the Korean law changed and no one has published it, you must take a drug test in Korea and submit it with your medical test to get your ARC from immigration within 90 days of being in Korea. There is no other rule about mid-contract testing. Like Nancy Reagan said, "Just say NO."
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Rusty Shackleford



Joined: 08 May 2008

PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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B. It is my understanding that in the new (2009) EPIK contract, if/when you leave the country for a hol, the school or the powers that be can ask (make) you do a drug test - given a days notice or so.


This simply isn't true. You shouldn't post half baked info as people are liable to take it as gospel.

I think I'm going to take Skippy's advice, except for the peeing in a cup for the boss part. They said that it's my responsibility to pay for it but that could change by tomorrow.

It's just a pain, cos it's the big giant douche ajeosshi at the POE that's causing the ruckus, not my school. They are great.
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DrOctagon



Joined: 11 Jun 2008
Location: Chicago

PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This is one of the most ironic things about drugs because while the white powder (not snow) does leave the system vvv quickly the weed does not!

I don't see the irony in this? Is this an Alanis Morrissete song? And what is 'vvv'?
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Gimpokid



Joined: 09 Nov 2008
Location: Best Gimpo

PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gazz wrote:
think again!


Read again!
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asylum seeker



Joined: 22 Jul 2007
Location: On your computer screen.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jinks wrote:
Immigration no longer require a drug test. I just applied to extend my visa; I had to run around and get a CRC, HIV and TB test, but no drug test.


Not true in all cases. Two new teachers just started where I work and both had to do a medical test that included testing for cannabinoids as well as other drugs. It was written in English on the results sheet.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

asylum seeker wrote:


Not true in all cases. Two new teachers just started where I work and both had to do a medical test that included testing for cannabinoids as well as other drugs. It was written in English on the results sheet.


What is true is that immigration does not require a test for marijuana. While it is true many hospitals test and report for all drugs, the teachers did not have to get a marijuana test. There are also no required hospitals, so find one foreigners can communicate with easily about costs, procedures, testing, etc.
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danseonsaeng



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys,

Let's put an end to this -

The cannaboid test was DROPPED earlier this year. Check the official Immigration website -

Title Simplification of E-2 Visa documents
Name Manager Depart Border Control Team
Email Telephone 02-500-9111
Date 2008/04/01 Hit 6377




Simplification of documents in applying for an
E-2(Foreign language instructor) Visa


Starting from Mar. 15 2008, the Ministry of Justice decided to leave out the cannabinoid check on a medical record certificate and exceptionally accept the criminal record certificate verified by his/her consular officer(s) in Korea.




The Ministry of Justice has strengthened it's policies on checking the qualifications of E-2 visa holders by requiring the criminal record certificate, the medical record certificate and the interview with Korean consular officer(s) since Dec 15 2007.





As new policies were put in practice, some complaints have broken out such as inconveniences related to the Apostille certification and the cannabinoid check required for the application for foreign registration.





In order to improve the documentation system for an E-2 visa applicants who got the criminal record certificate issued from his/her home country while staying in Korea or came to Korea imminently without proper Apostille certification, the verification of the consul in Korea on the criminal record certificate will be also regarded as valid.




Besides, the valid period of the criminal record certificate will be extended from existing three months to six months.


------------------

This is it - plain and simple, straight from the Immigration website (http://www.immigration.go.kr/indeximmeng.html).

As far as I've heard, Seoul National University Hospital doesn't check for cannaboids. If you're so worried, go there.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Listen folks, if it is not in the immigration law and it is not in your contract, it is not legal or required.

Even if you don't use drugs (which you shouldn't do at least in Korea), you should not allow authorities to make up rules and violate your privacy.

For the people who say, "So what? I don't use drugs, it's ok." You obviously didn't study dangers of governmental invasions of privacy. Don't roll over like a dog for these xenophobic institutions and supervisors. A simple, "No, let me show you the Korean immigration requirements." "


This is my point.
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alex83



Joined: 03 May 2007

PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

poet13 wrote:
"Listen folks, if it is not in the immigration law and it is not in your contract, it is not legal or required.

Even if you don't use drugs (which you shouldn't do at least in Korea), you should not allow authorities to make up rules and violate your privacy.

For the people who say, "So what? I don't use drugs, it's ok." You obviously didn't study dangers of governmental invasions of privacy. Don't roll over like a dog for these xenophobic institutions and supervisors. A simple, "No, let me show you the Korean immigration requirements." "


This is my point.


I couldn't agree more.
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just because Immigration doesn't test for cannabis doesn't mean the school won't.

My school pulled that same foolishness mid-contract, and after vacations... Some teachers fled Embarassed Crying or Very sad

You can try telling them "no" if it's not in the contract to take random drug tests.... Rolling Eyes
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alex83



Joined: 03 May 2007

PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThingsComeAround wrote:
Just because Immigration doesn't test for cannabis doesn't mean the school won't.

My school pulled that same foolishness mid-contract, and after vacations... Some teachers fled Embarassed Crying or Very sad

You can try telling them "no" if it's not in the contract to take random drug tests.... Rolling Eyes


What's this "try" stuff?
Tell them "no," and that's that.
If they use that as an excuse to fire you, then NEWSFLASH, they were just looking for a reason to do it (likely to save money).
That's for hagwons. In public schools, that shouldn't even be an issue.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alex83 wrote:
poet13 wrote:
"Listen folks, if it is not in the immigration law and it is not in your contract, it is not legal or required.

Even if you don't use drugs (which you shouldn't do at least in Korea), you should not allow authorities to make up rules and violate your privacy.

For the people who say, "So what? I don't use drugs, it's ok." You obviously didn't study dangers of governmental invasions of privacy. Don't roll over like a dog for these xenophobic institutions and supervisors. A simple, "No, let me show you the Korean immigration requirements." "




This is my point.


I couldn't agree more.



To clarify, biibitybop wrote, "Listen folks, if it is not in the immigration law and it is not in your contract, it is not legal or required.

Even if you don't use drugs (which you shouldn't do at least in Korea), you should not allow authorities to make up rules and violate your privacy.

For the people who say, "So what? I don't use drugs, it's ok." You obviously didn't study dangers of governmental invasions of privacy. Don't roll over like a dog for these xenophobic institutions and supervisors. A simple, "No, let me show you the Korean immigration requirements."
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