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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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 Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:35 am Post subject: nuts and cards |
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The conspiracy nuts have shown their cards. They've simply moved their whole game from Bush onto Obama, and this a month before he will be inaugurated.
Obama was born in Kenya, or to Malcom X. And anyways, he isn't a citizen but really is a muslim, but is also gay and smokes crack with his boyfriends. He has been "bought and paid for" and is a secret neo-con. Etc etc.
What does this tell us? |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
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| Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:28 am Post subject: |
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| He has been "bought and paid for" and is a secret neo-con. |
I wonder how many of the people pushing this line were among those previously saying that the election would be rigged because the establishment could never allow a guy like Obama to come to power. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:35 am Post subject: |
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| You'd have to ask LooseEnds. That quote is from him. I assume the source is Alex Jones. |
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canuckistan
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Joined: 17 Jun 2003
Location: Training future GS competitors.....
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| Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:47 am Post subject: |
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| It tells us there still are people who sit in the corner all day long shouting "I deny this reality!" |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:13 pm Post subject: Re: nuts and cards |
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| mises wrote: |
The conspiracy nuts have shown their cards. They've simply moved their whole game from Bush onto Obama, and this a month before he will be inaugurated.
Obama was born in Kenya, or to Malcom X. And anyways, he isn't a citizen but really is a muslim, but is also gay and smokes crack with his boyfriends. He has been "bought and paid for" and is a secret neo-con. Etc etc.
What does this tell us? |
While I don't ascribe to anything else you've written there, I have asserted that Obama is "bought and paid for."
In fact, you could refer to him as the Senator (now President-elect) from Archer Daniels Midland.
Just wait, watch, and see all the subsidies for the phony alternative energy source ethanol that will be enacted or continued under him.
Is the NY Times a conspiracy nut, too?
Obama Camp Closely Linked With Ethanol
By LARRY ROHTER
Published: June 23, 2008
When VeraSun Energy inaugurated a new ethanol processing plant last summer in Charles City, Iowa, some of that industry�s most prominent boosters showed up. Leaders of the National Corn Growers Association and the Renewable Fuels Association, for instance, came to help cut the ribbon � and so did Senator Barack Obama.
Then running far behind Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton in name recognition and in the polls, Mr. Obama was in the midst of a campaign swing through the state where he would eventually register his first caucus victory. And as befits a senator from Illinois, the country�s second largest corn-producing state, he delivered a ringing endorsement of ethanol as an alternative fuel.
Mr. Obama is running as a reformer who is seeking to reduce the influence of special interests. But like any other politician, he has powerful constituencies that help shape his views. And when it comes to domestic ethanol, almost all of which is made from corn, he also has advisers and prominent supporters with close ties to the industry at a time when energy policy is a point of sharp contrast between the parties and their presidential candidates.
In the heart of the Corn Belt that August day, Mr. Obama argued that embracing ethanol �ultimately helps our national security, because right now we�re sending billions of dollars to some of the most hostile nations on earth.� America�s oil dependence, he added, �makes it more difficult for us to shape a foreign policy that is intelligent and is creating security for the long term.�
Nowadays, when Mr. Obama travels in farm country, he is sometimes accompanied by his friend Tom Daschle, the former Senate majority leader from South Dakota. Mr. Daschle now serves on the boards of three ethanol companies and works at a Washington law firm where, according to his online job description, �he spends a substantial amount of time providing strategic and policy advice to clients in renewable energy.�
Mr. Obama�s lead advisor on energy and environmental issues, Jason Grumet, came to the campaign from the National Commission on Energy Policy, a bipartisan initiative associated with Mr. Daschle and Bob Dole, the Kansas Republican who is also a former Senate majority leader and a big ethanol backer who had close ties to the agribusiness giant Archer Daniels Midland.
Not long after arriving in the Senate, Mr. Obama himself briefly provoked a controversy by flying at subsidized rates on corporate airplanes, including twice on jets owned by Archer Daniels Midland, which is the nation�s largest ethanol producer and is based in his home state.
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Mr. Daschle, a national co-chairman of the Obama campaign, said in a telephone interview on Friday that his role advising the Obama campaign on energy matters was limited. He said he was not a lobbyist for ethanol companies, but did speak publicly about renewable energy options and worked �with a number of associations and groups to orchestrate and coordinate their activities,� including the Governors� Ethanol Coalition.
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Ethanol is one area in which Mr. Obama strongly disagrees with his Republican opponent, Senator John McCain of Arizona. ...
Mr. McCain advocates eliminating the multibillion-dollar annual government subsidies that domestic ethanol has long enjoyed. As a free trade advocate, he also opposes the 54-cent-a-gallon tariff that the United States slaps on imports of ethanol made from sugar cane, which packs more of an energy punch than corn-based ethanol and is cheaper to produce.
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Mr. Obama, in contrast, favors the subsidies, some of which end up in the hands of the same oil companies he says should be subjected to a windfall profits tax. In the name of helping the United States build �energy independence,� he also supports the tariff, which some economists say may well be illegal under the World Trade Organization�s rules but which his advisers say is not.
Many economists, consumer advocates, environmental experts and tax groups have been critical of corn ethanol programs as a boondoggle that benefits agribusiness conglomerates more than small farmers. Those complaints have intensified recently as corn prices have risen sharply in tandem with oil prices and corn normally used for food stock has been diverted to ethanol production.
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Kikomom
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko
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| Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:04 am Post subject: |
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Very clever of Obama to offer the post of HHS to Daschle rather than Energy. Energy going to a man well-affiliated with solar research, Dr. Steven Chu.
No one will ever suspect that Daschle's really there to make a fast buck on Ethenol. [/sarcasm] |
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seosan08
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:51 am Post subject: |
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| Not to worry, he most likely won't live long enough to make his mark on the office. Then he'll go onto MLK-type martyrdom. |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map
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| Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:01 am Post subject: |
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| seosan08 wrote: |
| Not to worry, he most likely won't live long enough to make his mark on the office. Then he'll go onto MLK-type martyrdom. |
You've said this numerous times. You know something we don't? |
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