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Jandar
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| Actually in the Union proposed Canada would just become another county in Michigan or Alaska depending on the season Mexico will be reunited with Texas to become New Texico. |
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Jane
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:52 am Post subject: |
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| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| I can't possibly see Americans agreeing to it even if the vast majority of Canadians and Mexicans wanted it (which they surely don't). |
Regardless, it's not the American people who decide foreign policy or any policy for that matter, is it.
I had to say that cuz I just finished watching Zeitgeist last night, and it addresses this affair.
www.zeitgeist.com in case you are interested! |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:59 am Post subject: |
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| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| I can't possibly see Americans agreeing to it even if the vast majority of Canadians and Mexicans wanted it (which they surely don't). |
Yeah that's the part the conspiracy nuts seem to forget. Things need to be ratified by congress (assuming Canadians are all going to be gung-ho and give their MPs confidence to vote for it). Congress pretty much wants to kill UN financing, I'm not sure they'd be for giving up an iota of sovereignty to AU.
Look, when we reduce the ability of capital, goods, and people to move across borders, we all benefit. People will argue and plan for this. They always have. They always will. Some parts will be implemented. Some parts will be rejected. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:24 am Post subject: |
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| http://english.pravda.ru/world/americas/02-12-2008/106779-amero-0 |
The source that pravda uses for that article is "the Russian internet". Okkaayyyyyyyy. |
yes? you dont read news from around the world ? its good to get a perspective , you know ? |
Pravda = the National Enquirer. |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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princess
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: soul of Asia
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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| 5600 wrote: |
Yes it's going to happen and not for the reasons that you are thinking.
www.infowars.com |
Yes. Pretty scary stuff. Those NWO people are nothing but pure evil. Just wait until they start forcing people to take that RFID microchip, or else, you won't be able to buy or sell. As a Christian, I know what that means. Not to mention scary martial law. There will be no escaping. It will happen everywhere, no matter where you are. These days some people are actually voluntarily taking the microchip. They are so doomed. I feel sad for them. |
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McLovin
Joined: 17 Nov 2008
Location: Taiwan (Korea wannabe)
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Wacky responses here...
A NA Union would never happen because:
* Canada is not a republic and cannot decide its national fate unless Britain somehow grants it full independence (not going to happen).
* Mexico doesn't have an economy or standard of living on par with its two northern neighbors. Its a bit like the EU accepting Romania and Bulgaria, a decision a lot of people think was a big mistake at this time.
Having said that, I could still see a lot of countries accepting a single, world-wide currency, be it the Euro, Amero, or Whatevero.
The big question is, why aren't Asians moving in the direction that Europeans have been moving. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:07 am Post subject: |
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| McLovin wrote: |
| * Canada is not a republic and cannot decide its national fate unless Britain somehow grants it full independence (not going to happen). |
That's an interesting claim. You'll need to back that up. As far as I know, Canada has had the power to amend its constitution without assent from the queen since the repatriation of the BNA act back in the early 1980s.
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| * Mexico doesn't have an economy or standard of living on par with its two northern neighbors. Its a bit like the EU accepting Romania and Bulgaria, a decision a lot of people think was a big mistake at this time. |
This makes a lot more sense. Last time I checked, congress and the states were in charge of amending the constitution. Some how I can't see a super majority being too keen, ever, on 70 million Mexicans all moving north to get better jobs.
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| The big question is, why aren't Asians moving in the direction that Europeans have been moving. |
Asians do talk about monetary union as well. Not surprisingly there's so much acrimony between China, Japan, and Korea that that tends to get in the way. |
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Tiger Beer
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:41 am Post subject: |
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The AMERO is ridiculous.
For one, the EURO was because there were a significant amount of nations in a very small land area, and they really needed it for it to work economically there.
For North America, there are only THREE...and I certainly don't see the U.S. giving up the green dollars anytime soon. The U.S. can't even give up the ridiculous PENNY, let alone wipe away the entire line of currency in exchange for a bunch of foreigners on their coins.
In addition, absorbing the Mexican economy into the American and Canadian economy would completely destroy the former two. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Tiger Beer wrote: |
The AMERO is ridiculous.
For one, the EURO was because there were a significant amount of nations in a very small land area, and they really needed it for it to work economically there.
For North America, there are only THREE...and I certainly don't see the U.S. giving up the green dollars anytime soon. The U.S. can't even give up the ridiculous PENNY, let alone wipe away the entire line of currency in exchange for a bunch of foreigners on their coins.
In addition, absorbing the Mexican economy into the American and Canadian economy would completely destroy the former two. |
Yeah Europeans were crossing borders all the time. How many nations can you cross in Europe in a day of driving? The amounts of money being spent on simply exchanging currency made the Euro highly desirable.
One of the advantages of the Euro (and why I wouldn't mind an Amero) is transparency of prices. It's very easy to see, say, web development in Spain is cheaper than web development in Germany.
I want to know what my florida vacation in February is going to be in October without having to worry that the Canadian dollar might tank.
Extend it, what if there was one world currency. The money you save in Korea at the start of your contract won't gain or lose value. |
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