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Bulsajo

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm, doesn't matter much to me either way but I always thought it was Chinese and Vietnamese who were really trying hard to enter the US illegally, not Koreans (at least not these days). I'm interested in hearing more info if you've got some.
Personally, while I'm ticked that they're using Canada to illegally transit to the US I'm also glad they're leaving- you don't want to be here, then fine, be on your way- go be a burden on someone else's system.
[Oh, and off the top of my head 5 countries which consistently make better beer then Canada- Belgium, Germany, UK, Czech, Ireland.]
Oh wait- I get it now [slaps forehead] you're trolling arent you? And not just about the beer either... |
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the wrangler

Joined: 24 Oct 2003 Location: the next flight to korea to find mankind
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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Well,,, I'm not going to argue with you over the beer. Obviously, my statement reflects my own opinion.
But about the "friend", I'll be honest with you, and I won't repeat this again. I actually didn't know what he was doing until he brought me along with him one time!!! He didn't say a peep while we were waiting for some "supposed" friends. Then when they came out, (it was family will you believe), he asked me to stay with them while he brought out the car. I mean, why couldn't we all have walked to the car together. I guess he was afraid of causing attention. He brought the car out, and now I can be certain why he had the back windows tinted, and we got in, went to a restaurant to eat,(where I presume he handed over the documents-well I actually saw him), then to the bordor, where we drove over, then back and when asked why so soon, "oh because I forgot something". Mission accomplished. Then he tells me "sorry, but I needed a lookout man"??? Stupidly, and unknowingly, I was an accomplice to a crime and I still pray to this day thanks for not going to jail. But the good news is that I don't meet him anymore.
Was that paragraph long enough for you? |
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anae
Joined: 13 May 2003 Location: cowtown
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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then to the bordor, where we drove over, then back and when asked why so soon, "oh because I forgot something". |
Here I am getting the impression that the crossing was done at an official border crossing. The US officials didn't check any documents? |
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maxxx_power

Joined: 17 Mar 2003 Location: BWAHAHAHAHA! I'M FREE!!!!!!!
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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anae wrote: |
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then to the bordor, where we drove over, then back and when asked why so soon, "oh because I forgot something". |
Here I am getting the impression that the crossing was done at an official border crossing. The US officials didn't check any documents? |
Whenever I have gone from from the US to Canada and back again I have never been asked to produce ID or any other form of official document.
It goes like this:
"Hello, what is your purpose for visiting Canada eh?
"Fishing"
"Have a nice time eh"
On the way back:
"Hello, why were you in Canada?"
"Salmon fishing"
"Oh sounds great, I hope you did well, have a nice day"
If I didn't want to use an official crossing it would be a hell of a lot easier to just walk a few miles away from the post and step across the border. |
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anae
Joined: 13 May 2003 Location: cowtown
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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Whenever I have gone from from the US to Canada and back again I have never been asked to produce ID or any other form of official document.
It goes like this:
"Hello, what is your purpose for visiting Canada eh?
"Fishing"
"Have a nice time eh"
On the way back:
"Hello, why were you in Canada?"
"Salmon fishing"
"Oh sounds great, I hope you did well, have a nice day"
If I didn't want to use an official crossing it would be a hell of a lot easier to just walk a few miles away from the post and step across the border.
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Generally, I don't think Canadian officials are worried about Americans coming into Canada and staying illegally.
However, I am under the impression that American officials are concerned about people from third countries using Canada as a gateway to the US. When my husband even has a lay over in an American city, his South Korean passport gets him a lengthy talk and a baggage search even with a valid vistors visa. Even at the Coutts, AB crossing I am at least asked for the place of my birth as is everone in the vehicle.
Hence my confusion about the official border crossing. I would have assumed third country nationals would be sneaking across the border out in the middle of nowhere. |
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jvalmer

Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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What I've noticed is that Koreans genrally don't get hassled through the major ports of entry like LA, New York, Seattle, or Niagra Falls border crossing. However, if a Korean say gets in LA then has to stopover somewhere before getting to their final destination via say Denver, then it really can be a hassle. But of course, when I'm standing in line I'm usually behind some really old Korean lady. I guess she wouldn't be considered high risk of committing an act of terrorism. |
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maxxx_power

Joined: 17 Mar 2003 Location: BWAHAHAHAHA! I'M FREE!!!!!!!
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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Good point considering I look like Joe Whitey.
I think the US is just concerned about tracking immigrants/visitors in country. Koreans I'm sure aren't profiled as being terrorists but illegal immigration is a serious political issue and that could be a reason for the grilling at the airport.
If those statistics are correct I'm shocked. I had no idea there were that many illegal Korean immigrants in the United States.
What cities do they prefer? Where I'm from the majority of illegals we have are the Mexicans who pick crops in the countryside and the occasional Russian. |
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Hank Scorpio

Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Ann Arbor, MI
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
The position of the U.S. should be to keep its nose out of another (friendly, and one of the few at that) country's foreign policy. |
Then our position will be to tighten the border and inspect every piece of cargo and every vehicle crossing it. Who's economy is that going to hurt more, yours or ours? Now be a good little satellite state and sit down. |
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dogbert

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: Killbox 90210
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
dogbert wrote: |
The position of the U.S., not unreasonably, is that part of Canada's job is not to become a free conduit for the passage of terrorists. |
The position of the U.S. should be to keep its nose out of another (friendly, and one of the few at that) country's foreign policy. |
Just how friendly is a nation having a foreign policy allowing unimpeded access by terrorists to its neighbor (a protector, and the only one at that)? |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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dogbert wrote: |
TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
dogbert wrote: |
The position of the U.S., not unreasonably, is that part of Canada's job is not to become a free conduit for the passage of terrorists. |
The position of the U.S. should be to keep its nose out of another (friendly, and one of the few at that) country's foreign policy. |
Just how friendly is a nation having a foreign policy allowing unimpeded access by terrorists to its neighbor (a protector, and the only one at that)? |
The Canadians all get their undies in a bunch because of things like lumber.
We get other fine things from Canada too -- like Mad Cow disease. |
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matko

Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: in a world of hurt!
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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Mad cow disease?
Or just a cow?
Isn't so nice to have a convenient scapegoat for all of your problems.
911. Canada's fault
Mad cow disease. Canada's fault.
Illigal immigrants. Canada's fault.
Give me a friggin break. |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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matko wrote: |
Mad cow disease?
Or just a cow? |
Or just a cow with Mad cow disease? |
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matko

Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: in a world of hurt!
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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prove it! |
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the wrangler

Joined: 24 Oct 2003 Location: the next flight to korea to find mankind
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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Derek,
Let me be the first to say,
"SHUT THE F*CK UP!"
You have the tenacity to bring up a cow that was "evidently" traced back to Canada???
If any nation would dare make up such an elaborate story to protect it's own interests, it would be the U.S. Just like Bush's insistence that Iraq was harbouring weapons of mass destruction so he could start a war. Where are they now??? |
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Bulsajo

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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It's confirmed that the cow came from Canada. |
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