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withnail
Joined: 13 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul, South Korea.
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 Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:59 am Post subject: Crap Uni job of the year - We have a winner! |
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I think this will not be beaten this year in terms of sheer cheek. If anyone can show me something worse, I'll be amazed:
1.8m before tax
20 hours a week
MA required + 1 year experience
4 weeks vacation
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| -Duties: Prepare lesson plan, teach English language class, assign and correct homwork, testing And, teaching contnuing education center programs. |
http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/index.cgi?read=34952 |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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That's a doozy(sp?).
With the economy getting worse, it seems that there's some denial going on. |
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The_Source
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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| The sad thing is, they'll line up at least five interviewees who actually WANT this job. |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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| The_Source wrote: |
| The sad thing is, they'll line up at least five interviewees who actually WANT this job. |
For the EGO benefits: "I work in a university."
The world churns out untold thousands of M.A.s a year and many are eager to call themselves "professor" even though they'll never get a PhD and become a true professor.
As a general rule: The higher a status job, the bigger the phoney. |
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semi-fly
Joined: 07 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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| That sounds like a hagwon job and not a university job. |
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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| semi-fly wrote: |
| That sounds like a hagwon job and not a university job. |
No, a hogwan would pay much more for a Master's degree. The teaching hours would be around 30, but the outside work would be much, much less. |
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sumfunu
Joined: 07 Dec 2006
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:16 pm Post subject: Crap uni. job..... |
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Not only are the pay and benefits low, it is also out in the bumble-berry
woods. |
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cdninkorea
Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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Well, if someone wants to live in rural Korea and has an interest in...
Nevermind. There's no way to reconcile such bad benefits with such a terrible job. And they want an MA with experience? |
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jinks
Joined: 27 Oct 2004
Location: Formerly: Lower North Island
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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| I got off the bus by mistake in Gaya once. Maybe I had to change buses, I can't remember, but I've been through there enough times to know it is a right royal sh i t hole. |
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jinks
Joined: 27 Oct 2004
Location: Formerly: Lower North Island
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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| VanIslander wrote: |
| many are eager to call themselves "professor" even though they'll never get a PhD and become a true professor. |
My professor doesn't have a PhD, he's recognised as a world leader in his field, flown around the globe to speak, and his work is published by MAJOR publishing houses. He even advises PhD candidates.
You don't need a PhD to be a proper professor. But, I do agree that ESL instructors in non-English medium universities are not professors in the academic sense of the word. |
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OneWayTraffic
Joined: 14 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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"Priate"
Was that supposed to be 'private' or 'pirate'? |
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Soccerstar
Joined: 21 Nov 2006
Location: Kyungsangnamdo
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:44 pm Post subject: Re: Crap Uni job of the year - We have a winner! |
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| withnail wrote: |
I think this will not be beaten this year in terms of sheer cheek. If anyone can show me something worse, I'll be amazed:
1.8m before tax
20 hours a week
MA required + 1 year experience
4 weeks vacation
| Quote: |
| -Duties: Prepare lesson plan, teach English language class, assign and correct homwork, testing And, teaching contnuing education center programs. |
http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/index.cgi?read=34952 |
I know some people who worked for Gaya University. They said it was a horrible job, with lots of extra hours and hardly any vacation.
Very few universities seem interested in real competition. Most assume that even low wages and few benefits will attract the hogwon crowd.
There is no prestige in being low-paid. |
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cruisemonkey
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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| The sad thing is they'll probably find some moron with a masters in underwater basket weaving to do it. |
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sarbonn
Joined: 14 Oct 2008
Location: Michigan
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:03 pm Post subject: Re: Crap Uni job of the year - We have a winner! |
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| Soccerstar wrote: |
Most assume that even low wages and few benefits will attract the hogwon crowd.
There is no prestige in being low-paid. |
Then I think they're smoking something a bit funny because with a master's degree, I actually am teaching at a hagwon, and they're paying me a decent amount of money for doing it. If it wasn't for that money, there's no way in the world I would be here. A couple of times I thought of just taking a university job for the prestige, but then the money always becomes the issue.
Hagwons may suck, but if you have the credentials, it is possible to find one that pays decently as a result. I can't see in a million years how they'd be attracting ANYONE even with a master's in underwater basketweaving. |
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weatherman
Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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| They have two campuses. The other is in some rural county south and east of Daegu. I had an interview once with them, some 10 years ago. When they got around to the pay, (then 1.4), I ran away... |
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