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tomato
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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 Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 3:46 am Post subject: Korean name but no English name for a US invention |
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What do you call crunchy sugar-coated cereal which you pour into a bowl and add milk?
Judging from this article, there doesn't seem to be any better English word than "cereal":
http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/20822
But the word "cereal" also applies to rice, oatmeal, and grits.
While we continue to confuse the two, the Korean language makes the distinction with the words 강냉 and 쌀.
On the other hand, they borrow the word "slipper" from us, even though they wear slippers more than we do. |
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Gimpokid
Joined: 09 Nov 2008
Location: Best Gimpo
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| Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:04 am Post subject: Re: Korean name but no English name for a US invention |
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| tomato wrote: |
What do you call crunchy sugar-coated cereal which you pour into a bowl and add milk?
Judging from this article, there doesn't seem to be any better English word than "cereal":
http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/20822
But the word "cereal" also applies to rice, oatmeal, and grits.
While we continue to confuse the two, the Korean language makes the distinction with the words 강냉 and 쌀.
On the other hand, they borrow the word "slipper" from us, even though they wear slippers more than we do. |
I don't get it. I mean cereal IS cereal. (How's that for zen?)
What am I missing? |
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Arthur Dent
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| Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:07 am Post subject: |
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| The answer is "Sugar Bombs." |
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tomato
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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| Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:27 am Post subject: |
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| You don't see how Kellogg's Corn Flakes should be classified differently from Quaker Oats? |
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ChinaBoy
Joined: 17 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:37 am Post subject: |
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Yes, I call Corn Flakes "Corn Flakes" and Quaker Oats "Oatmeal".
I find it also weird that Cadillacs and Fords are all called "Cars". |
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Gimpokid
Joined: 09 Nov 2008
Location: Best Gimpo
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| Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:37 am Post subject: |
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It already is. One's cereal and the other is oatmeal.
P.S. This is turning out to be one hell of a Saturday night. |
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the_beaver
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:42 am Post subject: |
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| The processed grains are modified with "breakfast" to differentiate them from the cereal grains before processing. |
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sodabread
Joined: 30 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:23 am Post subject: |
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....just like a kennel in British English is a doghouse or dog house in American English.
the germans and italians say fon, after the the winds,where we put 2 and 2 together to get hairdryer.
The beauty and splendor of nouns and nouns living together in near perfect harmony. Micheal and Paul. Lions and Tigers. Push me and pull you. Subjects without predicates. baby-daddies. keyboards. deathtraps.
We are a proud people; simple, but proud. We didn't invent it, but we've taken it to the city limits.
And now everybody's doing it.
first prize? a set of steak knives. |
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NoExplode
Joined: 15 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:30 am Post subject: |
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I call cereal cereal, rice rice, oatmeal oatmeal. I've never heard of anyone lumping rice, oatmeal and grits under "cereal."
Already started on the soju tonight? |
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moosehead
Joined: 05 May 2007
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| Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:36 am Post subject: |
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the technical term you are looking for is toasted cereal - the cornflakes and other crunchy types are regular ground cereal grains that have been superheated at 1500 degrees and higher so they don't immediately become soggy in milk.
the irony is this then kills off all nutritional content so vitamins have to be re-added back in afterwards 
we learned all about this in undergraduate nutrition class (I have a degree in agriculture) |
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OneWayTraffic
Joined: 14 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:37 am Post subject: |
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| NoExplode wrote: |
I call cereal cereal, rice rice, oatmeal oatmeal. I've never heard of anyone lumping rice, oatmeal and grits under "cereal."
Already started on the soju tonight? |
They're all cereals strictly speaking.
I use the brandnames like normal people.
What got me was that Koreans seem to have their own words for the planets. Mecury to Saturn I expected, they're all visible to the naked eye. But Uranus Neptune and Pluto were given names by the people who discovered them, all with the aid of modern telescopes and Neton's Laws. |
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Gimpokid
Joined: 09 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:41 am Post subject: |
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| the_beaver wrote: |
| The processed grains are modified with "breakfast" to differentiate them from the cereal grains before processing. |
Is this what you were driving at OP? You wanna know why processed cereals aren't called "kazoo" or something? |
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tomato
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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| Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 6:31 am Post subject: |
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That's basically it.
Sorry, didn't mean to threaten anybody.
I wish I never started this thread. |
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Ginormousaurus
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| Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 6:39 am Post subject: |
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| NoExplode wrote: |
I call cereal cereal, rice rice, oatmeal oatmeal. I've never heard of anyone lumping rice, oatmeal and grits under "cereal."
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I'm confused. You don't call rice 'cereal'? [/sarcasm] |
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viipuri
Joined: 12 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul, Centre of it all
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| Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 7:04 am Post subject: |
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OP....???
There is no word 강냉 - you mean 강냉이 (the 이 here is NOT a subject marker, but part of its name...) and it actually only means corn (옥수수) anyways...and corn is clearly different from 쌀 (uncooked, hulled rice...)
So I've really lost the point of the OP by this point...
At any rate there are words for the general cereals anyway in Korean - 곡식, 곡류, 곡물. |
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