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NoExplode

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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:28 am Post subject: World's oldest marijuana stash totally busted |
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28034925/
Two pounds of still-green weed found in a 2,700-year-old Gobi Desert grave
Image: A stash of cannabis found in the 2,700-year-old grave.
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Nearly two pounds of still-green plant material found in a 2,700-year-old grave in the Gobi Desert has just been identified as the world's oldest marijuana stash, according to a paper in the latest issue of the Journal of Experimental Botany.
A barrage of tests proves the marijuana possessed potent psychoactive properties and casts doubt on the theory that the ancients only grew the plant for hemp in order to make clothing, rope and other objects.
They apparently were getting high too.
Lead author Ethan Russo told Discovery News that the marijuana "is quite similar" to what's grown today.
"We know from both the chemical analysis and genetics that it could produce THC (tetrahydrocannabinolic acid synthase, the main psychoactive chemical in the plant)," he explained, adding that no one could feel its effects today, due to decomposition over the millennia.
Russo served as a visiting professor at the Chinese Academy of Sciences Institute of Botany while conducting the study. He and his international team analyzed the cannabis, which was excavated at the Yanghai Tombs near Turpan, China. It was found lightly pounded in a wooden bowl in a leather basket near the head of a blue-eyed Caucasian man who died when he was about 45.
"This individual was buried with an unusual number of high value, rare items," Russo said, mentioning that the objects included a make-up bag, bridles, pots, archery equipment and a kongou harp. The researchers believe the individual was a shaman from the Gushi people, who spoke a now-extinct language called Tocharian that was similar to Celtic.
Scientists originally thought the plant material in the grave was coriander, but microscopic botanical analysis of the bowl contents, along with genetic testing, revealed that it was cannabis.
The size of seeds mixed in with the leaves, along with their color and other characteristics, indicate the marijuana came from a cultivated strain. Before the burial, someone had carefully picked out all of the male plant parts, which are less psychoactive, so Russo and his team believe there is little doubt as to why the cannabis was grown.
What is in question, however, is how the marijuana was administered, since no pipes or other objects associated with smoking were found in the grave.
"Perhaps it was ingested orally," Russo said. "It might also have been fumigated, as the Scythian tribes to the north did subsequently."
Although other cultures in the area used hemp to make various goods as early as 7,000 years ago, additional tomb finds indicate the Gushi fabricated their clothing from wool and made their rope out of reed fibers. The scientists are unsure if the marijuana was grown for more spiritual or medical purposes, but it's evident that the blue-eyed man was buried with a lot of it. |
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itaewonguy

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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:29 am Post subject: |
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who spoke a now-extinct language called Tocharian |
TOKEARIAN? hahhahahaha it aint Extinct trust me! hahahaha
this cat seems like a guy I would of been hanging with..
chilling out, plays the harp and asks his boys to bury him with 2 pounds!
DAAAAMMMNNNN!! now he a real stoner!!!
2 pounds!!!!
awesome story... |
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Bondrock

Joined: 08 Oct 2006 Location: ^_^
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:39 am Post subject: |
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...in other news: ancient people may have fished... |
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sojourner1

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:48 am Post subject: |
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I knew people loved to get stoned in ancient times for thousands of years. This thread is a duplicate of one created about 2 weeks ago and I saw it in the news so it's not new news to me. Pretty kewl to say the least.
Nuttin wrong with grinding up some natural herb for your tea, pizza, and brownies. Apparently the modern day police think it's a problem. It's kewl to think that in ancient times, they didn't have police in the context or scope that they exist today. This marijuana being illegal thing is downright silly as it's a natural herb. I can understand that it's not OK to smoke in and around schools nor while operating a boat, but at home or on a camping trip should be no problem. |
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NoExplode

Joined: 15 Oct 2008
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:05 am Post subject: |
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But dude had 2 pounds of weed buried with him to take him to the after life.
And some seeds. |
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Cheonmunka

Joined: 04 Jun 2004
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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Wouldn't you love a sample. Well, except for it being wrapped next to a decomposing body ... |
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thrylos

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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 6:14 am Post subject: |
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NoExplode wrote: |
But dude had 2 pounds of weed buried with him to take him to the after life.
And some seeds. |
Dude, here's something to put in your pipe and smoke....
There's a Greek rebetiko song (that's Greek blues/jazz) that says
"When I die, I want you to plant a pot plant over my tomb so my friends can come by and smoke up when they visit me. I might take some tokes, too, God willing..."
We all know "If it ain't Greek, it's weak..." THAT'S how you separate the boys from the men in Greece...  |
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NoExplode

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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:41 am Post subject: |
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thrylos wrote: |
THAT'S how you separate the boys from the men in Greece...  |
I thought they used crowbars. |
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DaveMcK
Joined: 22 Oct 2008
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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No way, it's clearly a hoax. How the phuck did they have those baggies 2700 years ago |
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murmanjake

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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 1:13 am Post subject: |
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NoExplode wrote: |
thrylos wrote: |
THAT'S how you separate the boys from the men in Greece...  |
I thought they used crowbars. |
If you are alluding to the ancient practice of pederasty:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty
than I applaud your sophisticated sense of humor. if not, don't tell me, so i can continue to think its funny.... |
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NoExplode

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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 2:19 am Post subject: |
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murmanjake wrote: |
NoExplode wrote: |
thrylos wrote: |
THAT'S how you separate the boys from the men in Greece...  |
I thought they used crowbars. |
If you are alluding to the ancient practice of pederasty:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty
than I applaud your sophisticated sense of humor. if not, don't tell me, so i can continue to think its funny.... |
Creepy link:
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Korea
One of the earliest mentions of male attraction to boys is that of Gongmin of Goryeo (r. 1351�1374), the 31st king of the Goryeo dynasty, who was famous for his predilection for falling in love with young boys. After the death of his wife in 1365 he is reputed to have spent his time in the practice of Buddhism and relations with boys, establishing an organization for their recruitment. [61]
Paul Michaut, a French physician writing in 1893, described Korea as a country where "[p]ederasty is general, it is part of the mores; it is practiced publicly, in the street, without the least reprobation." He associated its prevalence with that of syphilis which was likewise general.[62] |
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