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Bucheonguy



Joined: 23 Oct 2008
Location: Bucheon

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:03 pm    Post subject: Wow... GEPIK sucks Reply with quote

Ok, anyone who's read my other posts can pretty much figure out I'm having a rough time here. My school keeps me locked up like I'm in a prison, they hide me away when we have school assessments, they won't give me references, they've threatened me with not writing release letters... the list goes on and on. I've been having a miserable time. My students really like me and so do a few of my coworkers. I'm a good teacher but I can't get any help from ANYONE! Every time I call those morons at GEPIK all they say is deal with it on your own or it's up to the schools principal. I will never, ever work in the GEPIK program again!

How do other people feel about it?
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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Wow... GEPIK sucks Reply with quote

Bucheonguy wrote:


How do other people feel about it?


One thing you left out is that they like to screw around with or not pay OT pay.

Same. Evil or Very Mad
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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's the luck of the draw and you rolled snake eyes. Good luck with your next job prospect.
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sobriquet



Joined: 16 Feb 2007
Location: Nakatomi Plaza

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not quite sure what you expected? Dain Bae the current GEPIK co-ordinator (if you can call her that) doesn't have a clue about what it's really like to be teaching at these schools.

Her answers to questions are usually wrong or inaccurate.
She will never step in and clear up any issues with the schools directly.
Things that were in the contract regarding severance pay are now being changed by her when asked.

Basically she is a complete waste of oxygen and she knows it.


People take on these public school jobs because they will in theory provide more security than the hagwon positions. Problem is hagwons are geared towards foreign teachers (in theory anyway) but schools in arseendofnowhere-dong aren't and have no idea what to do with their bits of foreign meat that they get.
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nicam



Joined: 14 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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People take on these public school jobs because they will in theory provide more security than the hagwon positions. Problem is hagwons are geared towards foreign teachers (in theory anyway) but schools in arseendofnowhere-dong aren't and have no idea what to do with their bits of foreign meat that they get.


Yup, exactly. When you aren't fortunate enough to get a good school and a good anministration you are as screwed as you would be in a crap hagwan. I am cutting and running from the public school war zone ASAP. Chose PS for reliability and bonus vacation (the only PS exclusive redeeming qualities) and didn't get close to either. Lies and exploitation all around.
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seethetraffic



Joined: 22 Nov 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you use a recruiter? Your recruiter should be able
to help you deal with many of those issues you mentioned.

If you are sticking around to finish your contract, you are
more likely to find more "luck" with your situation. It
doesn't surprise me that they don't want to help you quit.
It's a hassle for them every time to replace and have the
students adjust to the new situation.

At any rate, try asking your recruiter for some assistance.
He/she might be willing to help.
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Bucheonguy



Joined: 23 Oct 2008
Location: Bucheon

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My particular VP is really high up in the board of education. When my recruiter tried to help me, she phoned the board who then called my agency. The board told them that if they didn't reign in their recruiter that they wouldn't use the agency for any more staffing needs. So the agency threatened to fire her if she tried to help me anymore.

These people are the most horrible people I've ever met in my life. Pray you never encounter them.
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jiyull



Joined: 21 Mar 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Talk to your regional co-ordinator, I don't think GEPIK can really help you at all except for whatever is in your contract.
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frankhenry



Joined: 13 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sobriquet wrote:
Not quite sure what you expected? Dain Bae the current GEPIK co-ordinator (if you can call her that) doesn't have a clue about what it's really like to be teaching at these schools.

Her answers to questions are usually wrong or inaccurate.
She will never step in and clear up any issues with the schools directly.
Things that were in the contract regarding severance pay are now being changed by her when asked.

Basically she is a complete waste of oxygen and she knows it.


People take on these public school jobs because they will in theory provide more security than the hagwon positions. Problem is hagwons are geared towards foreign teachers (in theory anyway) but schools in arseendofnowhere-dong aren't and have no idea what to do with their bits of foreign meat that they get.


After many years of working and teaching, working 1 year at a GEPIK school is the only job that I have really detested. It's comforting to say that I'm out of there and happy again.
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xCustomx



Joined: 06 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Each person's experience with GEPIK will vary, and it's mostly because of the VP and how strictly he follows the contract.

In my case, my VP followed the contract exactly as it was written during my first year. I couldn't leave early, I had 3.5 weeks of camp in the summer, 2 weeks in winter (Because I saved my vacation time from summer) and a 2 week spring camp. Needless to say I wasn't too happy because I'd often read about other teachers in public schools getting a lot more vacation.

I negotiated my contract for my second year and I really couldn't be happier. I have a nice amount of vacation, I can teach anything I want in class, I made a school newspaper instead of teaching extra classes after school, and I received an increase in both salary and housing allowance. If my school wasn't willing to meet my requests then I would have walked.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

seethetraffic wrote:
Did you use a recruiter? Your recruiter should be able
to help you deal with many of those issues you mentioned.

If you are sticking around to finish your contract, you are
more likely to find more "luck" with your situation. It
doesn't surprise me that they don't want to help you quit.
It's a hassle for them every time to replace and have the
students adjust to the new situation.

At any rate, try asking your recruiter for some assistance.
He/she might be willing to help.


Your recruiter has helped you? Most recruiter bail on the first sign of any trouble.
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brandonna



Joined: 30 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

seethetraffic wrote:
Did you use a recruiter? Your recruiter should be able
to help you deal with many of those issues you mentioned.

If you are sticking around to finish your contract, you are
more likely to find more "luck" with your situation. It
doesn't surprise me that they don't want to help you quit.
It's a hassle for them every time to replace and have the
students adjust to the new situation.

At any rate, try asking your recruiter for some assistance.
He/she might be willing to help.


Key word here is "might." The recruiter's client is (G)EPIK. While you would think the other client is the instructor, they don't see it exactly that way and economics also doesn't support it -- plenty of new people will apply.

For future candidates though, you should REALLY ask whether or not a previous instructor has been placed at the school before. If they have, get their email address(es) and ask them questions. Many of the schools are dealing with foreigners for the first time (ever). They don't know how to deal with the requests & needs of the teacher. Plus, the administrators aren't always the most keen on having the instructor even arrive - it's something the education system sort of forced onto them.
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ManintheMiddle



Joined: 20 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The OP exclaimed:

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These people are the most horrible people I've ever met in my life. Pray you never encounter them.


Ask yourself: "Where am I?" Seriously, where are you? It ain't just this program that's amiss, OP, it runs much deeper and broader than that, if you get my drift.
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johnny_larue



Joined: 09 May 2008

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am beginning to think that I am really lucky that I got a job with the Incheon School Board. Things certainly aren't perfect here, but it seems compared to most stories I have heard my situation is pretty good.

I get paid for my after school classes even though I only teach 18 hours a week. My school opted to give me the full refund for my plane ticket because they said it was easier that way. They administration doesn't bother me that much at all.

I was having a hard time getting my vacation time arranged, but I agreed to be in an english teacher play and they seemed pretty thrilled with that and the vacation problems were gone the day following the play.

At any rate, most of the people I have spoken to about the their experiences so far working for the Incheon school board have been happy too.

I would also add that the English teacher coordinator for school board, Sera, is great. She is a bit cold, but if you have a problem she will work hard to resolve it.

I am only four months in though. Bad things could be coming, but I have no complaints so far.
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mountainous



Joined: 04 Sep 2007
Location: Los Angeles

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:43 pm    Post subject: GEPIK sucks Reply with quote

Bucheonguy wrote:
Ok, anyone who's read my other posts can pretty much figure out I'm having a rough time here. My school keeps me locked up like I'm in a prison, they hide me away when we have school assessments, they won't give me references, they've threatened me with not writing release letters... the list goes on and on. I've been having a miserable time. My students really like me and so do a few of my coworkers. I'm a good teacher but I can't get any help from ANYONE! Every time I call those morons at GEPIK all they say is deal with it on your own or it's up to the schools principal. I will never, ever work in the GEPIK program again!

How do other people feel about it?


This type of complaint re Korean Public Schools is not uncommon.

Thanks for writing a report card on GEPIK.
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