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fromtheuk



Joined: 31 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:45 pm    Post subject: Co-teacher blacklist Reply with quote

What do you all think about the idea of compiling a list of awful public school co-teachers?

I am aware of the possible legal consequences of this. So, if ATEK or any other semi-official organization of natives could produce such a list and then hide behind their organization.....

What do you think? I'd be happy to supply my co-teacher's name. Laughing
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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How would you feel if they did it for us?
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fromtheuk



Joined: 31 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought they already do.......allegedly. Laughing
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Set up your own US-based website and start one.
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nate2008



Joined: 10 Apr 2008
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think everybody knows how much you hate your co-teacher by now. How about instead of making useless threads like this one, you print out all of your posts from every thread you've ever made on Dave's and compile them into a book. Actually there's probably enough for a hefty volume of books by now. Throw in a few of my posts for some perspectives from the side of reality and I think you'd have a work best fit for the "self help" section.
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fromtheuk



Joined: 31 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who's stalking who?!! Laughing
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crabstix



Joined: 14 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:17 pm    Post subject: are they really that bad? Reply with quote

Hi Guys

I have never worked in Korea before. I am interested in working in a public middle/high school because I have heard it is a much more rewarding experience than working in a hagwon. Reading stuff like this makes me think I am making a big mistake. Are co-teachers really that bad? I thought the idea of having one is to help the students to learn and allow foreign teachers and Korean teachers to help each other. Anyone had good experiences with working with a co-teacher?
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maingman



Joined: 26 Jan 2008
Location: left Korea

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:47 pm    Post subject: , Reply with quote

crabstix wrrote :

Hi Guys

I have never worked in Korea before. I am interested in working in a public middle/high school because I have heard it is a much more rewarding experience than working in a hagwon. Reading stuff like this makes me think I am making a big mistake. Are co-teachers really that bad? I thought the idea of having one is to help the students to learn and allow foreign teachers and Korean teachers to help each other. Anyone had good experiences with working with a co-teacher?

do not bother coming to Korea !
my opinion
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daveweave2



Joined: 08 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:48 pm    Post subject: Co Teachers Reply with quote

I have seen a lot of mixed things about Korean Co teachers. I am lucky the four ladies I work with at my two EPIK schools are very nice and we all co teach together. The one lady who has traveled a lot hangs around with us even, and another one and her husband hang out with us sometimes. I have been here a couple of years and I am a certified teacher in America. I know some people have bad experieices with co teachers, and it is pretty much the luck of the draw. Some schools are forced to have western teachers by the Korean Government and in that case you will meet with resistance. (not your falut) This country is still going through growing pains when it comes to westerners and many of them still don't trust us. I have worked for a private big company (YBM) where I had a very bad experience and quit, and I worked for a local chain here in Daegu (Like School) that at times was diffacult to work for but honest, when I finished my contract they paid me. EPIK or a University is your best bet, but neither is perfect and again it depends where you end up. Do as much research on the net about perspective employers as you can, if theres enough smoke there is most likely fire also. Also do some research on Korean culture so you are ready for the day to day reality of how they differ from us, you will be okay.
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egrog1717



Joined: 12 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:49 pm    Post subject: Re: are they really that bad? Reply with quote

crabstix wrote:
Hi Guys

I have never worked in Korea before. I am interested in working in a public middle/high school because I have heard it is a much more rewarding experience than working in a hagwon. Reading stuff like this makes me think I am making a big mistake. Are co-teachers really that bad? I thought the idea of having one is to help the students to learn and allow foreign teachers and Korean teachers to help each other. Anyone had good experiences with working with a co-teacher?


It all depends on your co-teacher mate... Mine have been great thus far...
(though you missed one reason for having a co-teacher... Babysitting you Razz)
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:03 pm    Post subject: Re: are they really that bad? Reply with quote

crabstix wrote:
Hi Guys

I have never worked in Korea before. I am interested in working in a public middle/high school because I have heard it is a much more rewarding experience than working in a hagwon. Reading stuff like this makes me think I am making a big mistake. Are co-teachers really that bad? I thought the idea of having one is to help the students to learn and allow foreign teachers and Korean teachers to help each other. Anyone had good experiences with working with a co-teacher?


I had two co-teachers and they were complete opposites from each other, but they were both awesome

It was at a hagwon, but I am sure if you are flexible and social with your co-teacher you will survive Smile
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Perceptioncheck



Joined: 13 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also have two co-teachers that are complete opposites; one is great and the other is pure, malignant evil.

Some people you just can't be social with because they look like this: Twisted Evil
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Countrygirl



Joined: 19 Nov 2007
Location: in the classroom

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had 6 different co-teachers in a year and a half due to pregnancies. All of my co-teachers have been good or great. The worst thing that I could say is that some of them don't like to meet to discuss the lesson and only 50% know how to discipline the students or control the classroom.

Co-workers are the same all over the world. There are hard working co-workers who respect those who do the same, co-workers who aren't able to work in a team, co-workers who like to gossip and cause problems, and the odd person who doesn't get along with anyone. Add language and cultural issues and yes, teaching here can be hard. If you aren't up for the challange, stay home. The majority of the time you will get out of your experience what you put into it. I've been lucky that my co-teachers are from the first group.

Before you judge all Korean co-teachers as horrible, do yourself a favour and read the posts of those who complain the most before you believe the worst. It's easy...just click on 'fromtheuk' and then click on 'find all posts by fromtheuk'. I doubt you will continue to see him as the victim in his relationship with his co-teacher.
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sojusucks



Joined: 31 May 2008

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A "black list" is technically illegal in Korea, but that hasn't stopped Koreans. The best you can do is to file a lawsuit and have the company or person remove the site.

Basing the site in a foreign country would side-step a legality, but if it causes enough financial damage, expect them to come after you.
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However, we could make a positive list instead of a negative one. Similar to what the States' Better Business Bureau. Make a list and only list co-teachers or schools that you would recommend to other people. One could even list examples of your co-teacher's positive behavior; it will help others decide if it is a legitimate post or a lie. We could call it a "white list." It would be a much smaller list than the "black list" and would be a good form of positive reinforcement and it wouldn't break any laws (to my current knowledge).
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Kwangjuchicken



Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Countrygirl wrote:
I have had 6 different co-teachers in a year and a half due to pregnancies. All of my co-teachers have been good or great. The worst thing that I could say is that some of them don't like to meet to discuss the lesson and only 50% know how to discipline the students or control the classroom.

Co-workers are the same all over the world. There are hard working co-workers who respect those who do the same, co-workers who aren't able to work in a team, co-workers who like to gossip and cause problems, and the odd person who doesn't get along with anyone. Add language and cultural issues and yes, teaching here can be hard. If you aren't up for the challange, stay home. The majority of the time you will get out of your experience what you put into it. I've been lucky that my co-teachers are from the first group.

Before you judge all Korean co-teachers as horrible, do yourself a favour and read the posts of those who complain the most before you believe the worst. It's easy...just click on 'fromtheuk' and then click on 'find all posts by fromtheuk'. I doubt you will continue to see him as the victim in his relationship with his co-teacher.


How about a coworker who has been trying to give you South African Mad Elephant Disease. Althought the kim bop did smell spoiled that I ate last night, I am not sure if it was what gave me non stop puking for 8 hours, or the above mentioned. After I post this I will print a copy and put it on her desk. Laughing

PS: In any case I still love her. Embarassed
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