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ABC KID



Joined: 14 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:32 pm    Post subject: Seoul On Christmas Day Reply with quote

I do not live in Seoul and rarely go there. However, I was thinking it might be good to spend Christmas Day in the capital and sleep over for a night. From experience, what places in Seoul would people recommend for Xmas (both day time and night time)? If I go it will be with my Korean wife...
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're coming over on the 25th and spending the night? Don't you work on Friday?
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Ultimo Hombre



Joined: 13 Oct 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not too bad on Christmas. Most places are still open.

RACETRAITOR, do you teach? If so you have to work on Friday? That's balderdash!
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ultimo Hombre wrote:
It's not too bad on Christmas. Most places are still open.

RACETRAITOR, do you teach? If so you have to work on Friday? That's balderdash!


Actually I'm covering for a coworker who's going on vacation, so it'll be a very busy week. This might be time off for public schools and universities, but it's the busy time of the year for hagwons.
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moosehead



Joined: 05 May 2007

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:41 am    Post subject: Re: Seoul On Christmas Day Reply with quote

ABC KID wrote:
I do not live in Seoul and rarely go there. However, I was thinking it might be good to spend Christmas Day in the capital and sleep over for a night. From experience, what places in Seoul would people recommend for Xmas (both day time and night time)? If I go it will be with my Korean wife...
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when I am introduced to a foreign man in either a social or business setting I start counting how much time before he mentions either his K wife or K gf - usually it's within the intro para, sometimes 30 seconds or less.

I'm sure there's an explanation for this little tidbit of info - as in - why not just say my wife? why specify her nationality?

just curious - I've never introduced a bf or husband (when I was married) based on their nationality - and have never been introduced that way - so c'mon guys - why do you do it? would you still say this if she was from anywhere else?
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Seoul On Christmas Day Reply with quote

moosehead wrote:
ABC KID wrote:
I do not live in Seoul and rarely go there. However, I was thinking it might be good to spend Christmas Day in the capital and sleep over for a night. From experience, what places in Seoul would people recommend for Xmas (both day time and night time)? If I go it will be with my Korean wife...
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when I am introduced to a foreign man in either a social or business setting I start counting how much time before he mentions either his K wife or K gf - usually it's within the intro para, sometimes 30 seconds or less.

I'm sure there's an explanation for this little tidbit of info - as in - why not just say my wife? why specify her nationality?

just curious - I've never introduced a bf or husband (when I was married) based on their nationality - and have never been introduced that way - so c'mon guys - why do you do it? would you still say this if she was from anywhere else?


Because it's better to have a Korean wife than a foreign one. They're much prettier and thinner and exotic.
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PigeonFart



Joined: 27 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korean women are not better than foreign women, not by a long shot.

I think men who find it easier to talk to korean women are probably a bit redundant on the social scene back home. If a man has "yellow fever" its probably cos he's not great with real women in his own country. Their poor social skills are evident when dealing with english speaking women, and that's painful for them. They feel more comfortable with korean women because when the interaction doesn't run smoothly they can simply attribute that to the language/cultural barrier. They then feel more relaxed with the Korean women, and this starts the yellow fever fixation.

Why do they need to state its a Korean they're with? To create some psychological distance with the english speaking woman who once scared the shite out of them.

I could be wrong, but that's what my instinct tells me. I see it with some foreign guys i know.
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ABC KID



Joined: 14 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PigeonFart wrote:

I could be wrong


Wow! Some pretty mindless little digs at me! PigeonFart, no language barrier here. I can speak Korean well and she can speak English well.

It is not really necessary for me to defend myself but I will do so anyway. The reason I specifically stated my Korean wife was to imply that we would not necessarily want to go to places overrun by ex-pats. Merry Christmas to you and Moosehead!
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crusher_of_heads



Joined: 23 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PigeonFart wrote:
Korean women are not better than foreign women, not by a long shot.

I think men who find it easier to talk to korean women are probably a bit redundant on the social scene back home. If a man has "yellow fever" its probably cos he's not great with real women in his own country. Their poor social skills are evident when dealing with english speaking women, and that's painful for them. They feel more comfortable with korean women because when the interaction doesn't run smoothly they can simply attribute that to the language/cultural barrier. They then feel more relaxed with the Korean women, and this starts the yellow fever fixation.

Why do they need to state its a Korean they're with? To create some psychological distance with the english speaking woman who once scared the shite out of them.

I could be wrong, but that's what my instinct tells me. I see it with some foreign guys i know.


I'm not an apologist by any means, and I don't have a South Korean wife, but we live in a country where our gracious hosts refer to everyone else, their collective Other, as foreigners; it's bound to rub off on some of us. So, in a lot of cases, I'd say you're probably wrong.
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Kimsmith



Joined: 26 May 2008
Location: The holographic Universe

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

with your Korean wife... so are you leaving the other wives at home?
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Gimpokid



Joined: 09 Nov 2008
Location: Best Gimpo

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to get off topic, but I was wondering if there was anything to do in Seoul on Christmas day.
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PigeonFart



Joined: 27 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was definitely not referring to anyone in particular, i was just giving food for thought (i didn't really believe all that i was writing anyway).
Interesting point about koreans always continually using the word foreigner, leading foreigners to use the word korean.

Anyway, about Seoul on Christmas day...why not! If you don't live in Seoul then it'll be an interesting day out for you. I spent a few christmas days in Seoul but that was mainly time spent eating in Itaewon. I can't remember whether it was busy or not, i was only interested in the food. Maybe someone can tell you for sure if there's stuff going on.
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John Ep



Joined: 23 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow, at the risk of actually responding to the question....

if you want to be around a million people, go to myong-dong, then head up namsan. very festive.

insa-dong is a little more chill, but also festive.

have fun!
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seoulsucker



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Myeong-dong is a sight to behold on Christmas. I've never seen such a swarming mass of humanity outside of Mecca during the Hajj.
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John Ep



Joined: 23 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, myeong-dong on christmas is something you only want to do once....
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