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[gazz]

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/US/12/18/paterson.obesity/index.html

I think this is a good idea that other places should introduce. I'm sure Coca-Cola and other similar companies will some find a way to stop it though!

[Underwaterbob]

Exactly, it's needed even more so in Canada with our socialized medicine.

Cigarettes are somewhere in the vicinity of $12 a pack, your average pint of hard liquor about the same. It's all taxes to pay for the likelihood of you ending up in the hospital sooner or later as a result. Two liters of cola is probably as detrimental to your health as two liters of beer, possibly even worse for you. I can't see why we wouldn't tax it just as much.

[MikeGrey]

The state is in a massive deficient and soon everything is going to be taxed... from downloading music to soda... I'd find a link but I'm too lazy. There are going to be a lot more transit tolls as well too. Kinda glad I'm not there right now

and cigarettes are about 12 bucks in manhattan now

The bottom line is the state isn't doing this to try to be healthy. They're doing this because they're broke.

[prideofidaho]

[MikeGrey]

[Underwaterbob]

In retrospect, those who live healthy and 30 years past retirement age are probably far more of a financial drain through being supported by the government for those 30 years than those who live fast and die young. Bring on the carrot and broccoli tax!

[MikeGrey]

[Crockpot2001]

Trans fats? Ban 'em. I am not a proponent of excessive Govt. intervention usually but this is worthy. Transfats are used primarily out of cost savings and then somewhat as a culinary benefit in baking and frying. If Denmark can make their amazing baked goods without t-fats (I have sampled at the palace in Copenhagen) then we can do without them.

A few years ago I recall a study that showed obese people, (was it smokers?) utilized less healthcare resources than those of a healthy lifestyle as they died before experiencing the joys of a skilled nursing facility year, after year, after year, until death.

I wonder about my own costs. As an athlete (competitive cyclist, sometimes runner) I have broken my clavs 3x, my leg in 2 place, and spent several weeks in the hospital and then months in therapy. I cost big coin to be super-fit my style. OTOH I am less likely to display diabetes or heart disease in the future when it costs even more.

[sojourner1]

Crockpot 2001, that's correct. Transfats are terrible for causing heart disease just as cigarettes and obesity are, but even worse in that they stay in your cardiovascular system unlike where with other fats, you can diet and exercise to expel. I envy European countries so much for their social systems and governments that look out for and serve citizens instead of large corporate interests. It's the right thing for living and promoting a good progression or evolution of a country and the world. So many Americans in their 20's and 30's (some teens too) are coming down with heart disease and heart attacks from consuming bad food ingredients in the name of corporate profits. It's really hard to avoid, but the general rules. Avoid all bakeries, don't eat bakery goods of any sort, don't eat any crackers, don't eat fried foods in restaurants, be weary of bread looking things of any sort, be aware that pie crusts and other pastries use shortening in them, cook for yourself when possible, and don't eat any snacks in plastic wrappers even if it says, "I'm healthy." You really have to vigilant about food as if it's a bad guy trying to get at you since corporations are evil doers. There really are many poisons and bad ingredients offered and we can only wonder what we don't yet know. I'm quite religious about this in my every day life after finding out why my parents and grand parents died prematurely, but things pop in during trips. Only olive oil resides in my kitchen and it's only a half liter per month.

I'm scared that I'm screwed from frying catfish in hydrogenated shortening as a kid often. I understand this stuff to get in your arteries and cause arteriosclerosis, and then lead to blockages which prevent oxygenated blood from feeding the hearts need. Little left arm and hand pains are a tell tale classic sign of illness from these sorts of foods as well as smoking, if you've smoked. If you get serious angina, then it's game over. (not sure if having been damaged from bad products is reversible through lifestyle changes, but worth a try.)

The system is only killing people, not only with food, but in so many other ways. Financial stresses are another major thing killing people. High taxes and fighting the government will be America's next huge challenge in several years from now, becuase they're going to try to tax the hell out of people who largely don't make adequate living wages and that's when shits going to hit the fan. There will be millions more casualties of capitalism.

[cangel]

I wouldn't mind a tax on junk food so long as it goes into the health system budget. Additionally, I have seem some states propose a luxury tax on non-essential plastic surgery. So, Ms. Big Lips Betty, want more @ss fat injected into your soup coolers? Well, ya gonna have to pay!

As for a previous post getting all paranoid about fats in foods, well, if the choice is to abstain from all this delicious fatty food for 50 years so that I get 5 extra years at the end, bring on the Krispy Kremes... But, h e l l that's just me. You enjoy your roughage and constant label scrutinizing because I am sure those final years are worth it to you. That would suck to be hit by a car and die after 50 years of restraint.

[MikeGrey]

[Crockpot2001]

[MikeGrey]

[Crockpot2001]

[MikeGrey]